From w52 6/15 p. 382 Questions From Readers
"Why does not the Watchtower Society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children Bible truths?—A question based upon frequent inquiries by readers."
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20My, my, times have changed...
by DATA-DOG inquestions from readers?
why does not the watchtower society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children bible truths?.
-a question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.. jehovah god lays upon the parents themselves the responsibility of teaching their children.
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JW's are ordained Ministers!!! er..umm right?!?!?!
by DATA-DOG injust wanted to post this because i just discovered most of it, and you may be interested.
also, it is relevant to the victoria australia case, specifically the wtbts's defense.
if you read the transcripts, you will see how the lines are being blurred between who is a minister, and who is not.
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I think I've condensed it down:
WHO ARE 'ORDAINED MINISTERS'?
1950 - All baptized persons - g95 5/22 p.22 'I Was Convinced I Had Found The Meaning Of Life' par. 2
1951 - All dedicated persons, even before baptism - w51 11/1 p.672 Questions From Readers
1952 - All publishers - w52 1/1 p.18 par. 17
1954 - All baptized persons - w54 3/1 'The Meaning of Baptism' p.139
1955 - All publishers - w55 12/15 p.742 par.6
1955 - All dedicated persons - w55 11/1 p.665 par.10 & 13 and p.670 par.27
1957 - All baptized persons - w57 8/15 p.487 'Recognised and Certified by Man' par.4
1961 - All publishers - w61 1/1 p.18 par.5
1962 - All baptized persons - w62 10/15 p.626 'Who Ordains Jehovah's Witnesses?' par.1
1975 - Only men with responsibilities in the cong - WT 75 12/1 p.733 par. 22
1976 - Only men with responsibilities in the cong - 05/1976 KM Question Box
1981 - All baptized persons, specifically including women - w81 3/15 'Who Are God's Ministers?' p.15 par.3
1984 - All dedicated persons - Song Book (1984) Song 202 To God We Are Dedicated
1987 onwards - All baptized persons - w87 5/15 'Zealous at 70 Years of Age' p.27 par.2
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I am an active baptizer.
The premier quality is that you befriend the necessary people and get your name known.
I've headed up a few circuit departments this way.
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Did the Watchtower's Lawyer Lie In This Business Article On Insurance?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhttp://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20040104/issue01/100013940# .
insurance companies must weigh the risk of hiring a loose lip jw, the watchtower had the nerve to have their legal counsel reply to this author with this bogus statement about the problem dr. bullock had with is loose lip book-keeper who ran to the elders when she read the patients file after the sister was raped and came down with a std.
the sister who ran to the elders had no desire to approach the sister who was raped, she assumed the sister had sex with seven men and decided her "feet were quick to rush to do bad".
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*** w12 2/15 p. 22 par. 15 Preserve the Positive Spirit of the Congregation ***
How wrong and hurtful it is to spread confidential information about someone! Even so, when serious sin has been committed, those Scripturally obligated to handle the matter—the elders in the congregation—should be informed. (Read Leviticus 5:1.) So if we know that a brother or a sister has fallen into such wrongdoing, we should encourage that one to approach the elders and seek their help. (Jas. 5:13-15) If he or she does not do so within a reasonable period of time, though, we should report the wrongdoing.
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how fast is your internet connection?
by Dogpatch inverizon fios is killer!
we have 5 roommates so can split the faster speed cost ($15 more).. using: http://www.speedtest.net/index.php?nojs=1.
anyone get figures like this?
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80Mbps down, 20Mbps up, 5ms ping.
In reality I get 75 down and 18 up - according to www.speedtest.net .
The limiting factor is the servers I connect to - if they are busy I don't get any faster than someone with a slow connection.
Speed is most noticeable on larger downloads (pdf's, music, etc) when the downloading bar just races across the screen.
I'd be happy with 20mpbs or higher, that is enough for my needs.
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AUSTRALIA | TRANSCRIPT of Child Abuse Inquiry into Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower Society - April 2013
by jwleaks injw leaks has published the 17 page official transcript of the appearance by watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses before the "inquiry into the handling of child abuse by religious and other organisations" conducted on 11 april 2013 in victoria, australia.. http://jwleaks.org/australia/.
quote from rachel van witsen, legal counsel for watchtower bible and tract society of australia and jehovah's witnesses, in reply to who is responsible for reporting child abuse within the religion of jehovah's witnesses... .
ms van witsen at the moment, because there is no mandatory reporting for ministers of religion in victoria, then the victim, who has very often had their dignity removed, is then put in the drivers seat.. .
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We had a talk at our hall recently, basically saying that there have been lots of letters written to the UK branch, questioning and complaining about a new change introduced for the baptisms at the SAD and CA.
The talk did not try to reason, it did not try to explain.
The talk was "Do as you are told, don't question what you are told".
We were told to do as the song instructs us "Listen, Obey and be Blessed".
We were told that this change was from Jehovah so keep up with his chariot.
I think this talk was given in quite a few locations around the country.
Not trying to derail the thread, just picking up on Brinjen's point.
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MIL letter to my wife
by AggieNostic inbackground: my wife and i are inactive, we stopped attending in 2005. raised as jws, were pioneers, i was elder etc... .
our kids are in college, also inactive but are baptised.
my wife went back to college, getting her degree this month at age 48!
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Dear Mom,
I can only guess how hard it was for you to write that letter, I could really sense your anxiety for us.
I'm happy to tell you that we are doing well, and I put that down in part to the way you and Dad gave me such a good grounding as I grew up. I hope you are doing well too, I think of you both often and love you very much.
One thing I don't understand about your letter is that you are choosing to cut us all off, not for any gross misconduct we are guilty of, but because we still associate with my brother. Mom, this is a more severe treatment of us than even the Watchtower advises.
I'm finding it very hard to understand why you are inventing reasons to cut us off while at the same time you say you love us. Are you basing your decision on some new light that I'm not aware of?
If we were disfellowshipped ourselves I could understand your reasoning, but we are not, which makes your decision unnecessary and hurtful.
You have to do whatever you think is best, but I will never withdraw my love from you both or look for reasons to think badly of you. How could I be like that with my own Mom and Dad!
Paul said that l ove is long-suffering and kind. He also said "Allow room for us. We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, we have taken advantage of no one. I do not say this to condemn you. For I have said before that you are in our hearts to die".
Mom, you are in my heart until I die.
Love,
MW
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Did the Romans use crosses or stakes??
by Monsieur inthe cross is so prevalent, i would be inclined to believe that this is for a reason.
can anybody provide references for either one?
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Moses had to stand with his arms outstretched on one occasion.
Jesus is said to be the greater Moses:
(Ex 17:11, 12) And it occurred that as soon as Moses would lift his hand up, the Israelites proved superior; but as soon as he would let down his hand, the A·mal′ek·ites proved superior. When the hands of Moses were heavy, then they took a stone and put it under him, and he sat upon it; and Aaron and Hur supported his hands, one on this side and the other on that side, so that his hands held steady until the sun set.
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Can Jehovah's Witnesses eat blood sausage if its made with only blood fractions
by Watchtower-Free incan jehovah's witnesses eat blood sausage if its made with only blood fractions
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Nice summary Vanderhoven7,
A JW friendly version is White Pudding, but I can guarantee not one JW would try it, 'just in case'.
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Who has experienced a REAL demonic incident?
by Monsieur inhas anybody here experienced a bonafide, real, true incident in whicy 'demons' actually interacted with you or did something 'supernatural' that left you convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that satan and his demons exist??.
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Any skeptic want to explain my experience (pg. 3)?
Will just add that the instant we felt this presence we both reacted by ducking, just as you would if there was an unexpected nearby explosion.
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