I really hope this gains traction.
What a perfect opportunity to resurrect all those ridiculous 1975 prophecies.
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this is going around the kingdom halls now, i thought it was a hoax but are not all the end time dates produced by the organization some hoax or con?
the reason why the end did not come in 1975 was the watchtower society had not put eve's creation in their equation.
i was told when we had a "meet and greet" if "we knew the date of eve's creation we would know the year jehovah was going to destroy the earth.. it's been 40 years since 1975, can you believe it's been 40 years since "stay alive till 1975!"?
I really hope this gains traction.
What a perfect opportunity to resurrect all those ridiculous 1975 prophecies.
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yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
I'm a practising, appointed JW, before you throw the atheist label at me. You might have seen me give a talk at your local assembly, or I may have baptised you.
There are more holes in JW theology than in a Marks and Spencers string vest and pants set. This is why the GB stumble from one incredulous position to another. They either have the truth or they do not, so which is it? If they have the truth then why do they keep changing it?
If it's the truth now then there will be no more changes, right? Well let me tell you that that's not going to happen anytime soon. That stuff you're preaching today is wrong - it will change.
Want an example of what the Catholic Church beat JWs at, then read Rom 13:1 about the 'superior authorities'. The Catholics had this correct forever. How do you explain that the JW's had it correct before the F&DS were chosen, then the F&DS changed it to something wrong for 40 years?
Let me break it to you gently: JW's are no more correct than the other Christian religions except in their own minds, but do far less true Christian charity work. To deny these things is to deny reality, but that's your choice.
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does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 yearbook yet?.
(isn't it usually out by now - or are they waiting to celebrate new year's day?
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Phizzy Percentage increase 2.2 .
But baptisms are -1%
Interesting
The number of baptised has remained pretty stable for many years - around the 260,000 - 280,000 per year mark.
If the peak publisher and hours in ministry figures are increasing by a higher %ge than the baptised are being added, that means the publishers are each increasing their time and effort.
Finally, the constant message ("DO MORE!!") is taking effect.
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does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 yearbook yet?.
(isn't it usually out by now - or are they waiting to celebrate new year's day?
).
Hi Steve2, these figures are from an unofficial source, not the released yearbook or jw org. I'm pretty sure they're correct but please treat as unconfirmed for now.
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i just thought we could share some of the funniest moments since its the holiday season and we are taking things easy.
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Well there was that information about mediums that Jesus gave to the Judge one year after choosing the F&DS:
From 1920 WT publication "Talking with the Dead":
p. 116 Materializations
"These materializations occur by a power which the demons posess of being able to draw out of the mediums body connected streams of the cells of which her body is composed, and then changing the form of these living cells into any desired appearance. They thus transform the medium into a hideous octopus-like creature, and this is the reason seances occur in a dimly lit room, with the medium in a cabinet, so that the circle of investigators cannot witness the horrible scene as it really is."
https://archive.org/stream/talkingwithdead00ruth#page/116/mode/2up
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what are those very small coloured icons to the right of the length of time since the thread was started ?
Kate is saying that it is the avatars of the last few people who posted on that topic.
You used to see who was the last poster on a thread on the old site, now you can see the last few posters.
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i made a mistake on the title of a magazine i was inquiring about, i dont know how to edit my post, .
its not mother earth its mother jones, is there a way to edit or delete posts?
i cant find one.. thanks.
There is an edit button underneath the post, but when I've edited my recent posts it took about 5 minutes and 10 attempts to Save the edit.
I don't know if that's the site or my tablet.
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does anyone have the 2014 stats from the 2015 yearbook yet?.
(isn't it usually out by now - or are they waiting to celebrate new year's day?
).
2014 Grand Totals 2013 figures
Branches of Jehovah’s Witnesses: 90 91
Number of Lands Reporting: 239 239
Total Congregations: 115,416 113,823
Worldwide Memorial Attendance: 19,950,019 19,241,252
Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 14,121 13,204
Peak of Publishers in Kingdom Service: 8,201,545 7,965,954
Average Pubs Preaching Each Month: 7,867,958 7,698,377
Percentage of Increase Over 2013: 2.2 over 2012: 2.1
Total Number Baptized: 275,581 277,344
Average Aux Pioneer Pubs Each Month: 635,298 496,089
Average Pioneer Pubs Each Month: 1,089,446 1,025,677
Total Hours Spent in Field: 1,945,487,604 1,841,180,235
Average Home Bible Studies Each Month: 9,499,933 9,254,963
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good morning all (good evening to those on the wrong side of the world);.
could someone explain the new arrangement with the "anointed"?
is anyone other than the gb in this class anymore?
DOC is correct, the FDS now appeared in 1919 after CT Russell had died.
The FDS is now the same as the GB, so only 8 FDS today, and the whole 'class' thing has been dropped - they are the FDS, and not the FDS Class.
Linked to this new teaching is the revised start and end dates for This Generation. Simply put, TG starts around the time of the American civil war (1860's) and stretches into our future.
This is exactly what Jesus meant when he said "This generation will by no means pass away". Well, until it's changed again of course.
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from the feb 2015 km, page 2:.
have a publisher demonstrate how he.
prepares for the ministry by reviewing the tracts,.
fastjehu 3 hits for "latest gadget"
Thanks for those references fastjehu, and the other ones you found JW GoneBad.
Seems the doublespeak applies to this as well then. Counsel not to get the latest gadgets, but then pressure to have them to keep up with the KM presentations and jw tv. Quite frankly, if you don't have a tablet at the KHall these days, you're the underclass.
My 70 year old mother in law can't use her tablet but told me she's going to use it in the ministry this week. When she fails miserably, that will be another reason for her to feel like a failure and become more depressed.
I also hope she doesn't get mugged for it.
The internet has gone from being a frightening tool of Satan, to the GB's secret weapon. Maybe they are the same thing.
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