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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

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  2. experiences

  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  Splash

  Testicles need to swing in the air to keep cool, otherwise the swimmers don't work so well.
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  New June broadcast is out.....oh what joys will be unleashed on everyone?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone watched the june broadcast?.

  i can't be stuffed.....but i'm interested in any wtf content.....

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  The song at the end is called "I want to give you my all" and centres around a number of youths turning away from secular things such as education and sports in order to go preaching or to the meetings.

  It ends by showing all three youngsters being baptised to the lyric "I want to give you my all" being sung four times.
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  Another "damned if they do/don't" Thread & the Perpetual Motion Machine

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago, a jw apologist posted a thread with a similar title.

  although he was defending their behavior, i've observed this cycle as well.

  i have a different spin on it, though.. how often do you see posts from people who are upset that "no one even bothers to check in on me," only to read as many threads about "they keep calling & texting--why won't they leave me alone?

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  The double standard of "they never come to visit" vs "they won't stop calling" is nothing other than the standard JW modus operandi.

  JW's are so indoctrinated to having to take a single statement or event and apply it to one specific situation while ignoring the overall bigger picture, that they end up doing the same.

  How many times do we read something like the NT was written for the anointed, then told that the instruction to preach in Matt 28 was for all?

  Or instructed to go and discuss the fault with your brother first, only to be hauled into the back room by the elders for something you wasn't aware about.

  Or the illustration of the faithful slave takes 20 WT pages to explain, but the wicked slave receives one line: "there's no such thing".

  This, plus being told we are never doing enough, conditions JW's to look critically at others all the time, finding fault and using anything that might fit.
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  Writing Department Interview on "The Generation."

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a member of the writing department was gracious enough to allow me to interview him about the "overlapping generation" doctrine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu.

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  Splash

  That is SERIOUSLY funny!!!!!!
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  How big of a problem is apostasy.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.

  in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.

  i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.

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  I think demographics are an important factor.

  The older ones will not research online, however these ones are reducing in number as they grow old, can't make meetings anymore, and eventually die off. 40% in my congregation of 100 publishers are in this age group and there are a dozen of these who no longer come regularly because of age and infirmity.

  Middle aged ones sit squarely between years of meetings and dabbling with reading online. This group makes up the largest number in my congregation, probably 50% in their 30's - 50's. My observation is that they often have lots of questions about the organisation but are trapped in because they may have older parents in, or they have brought their children in. When the parents die and the children leave (either home or the WT), that will be an interesting time.

  Younger ones (not including minors who have to attend with parents) are dropping like flies. They use the internet every day and are increasingly unafraid to research non-WT sites.

  It's a vicious circle for the WT. As younger ones drop away, there's less incentive for the remaining younger ones to stay, seeing as it's an ageing group with whom they have little in common. The meetings are repetitive, boring and bullying, the demands on time and lifestyle are too high, and the teachings incomprehensible. Once the social aspect goes there's nothing left.

  At the top end they are dying off, at the bottom end, despite the infant baptisms, young ones are just losing fear and interest. Those that remain do so for family reasons. If they don't leave now, they will likely do so when they reach middle age.

  Of course, there are always those who have JW-ORG written through their brains like a stick of seaside rock and those who value their positions too much to quit because they have nothing else in life to be proud about. These will remain on board when it sinks, and still won't see the futility of it all.
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  Are Elders experts on the Bible? Are they spirtually qualified men?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many times have elders read their bible in its entirety?

  these are the leaders that give counsel to married couples, to teenagers, to single girls and single boys on everything from marriage, education, sex, association, dress, and recreation..

  how well do they know their bible?

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  You can't go to 3 meetings per week, pre study, personal study, family study, prepare talks, read the Bible, read the mags and do field service for a decade or more, without learning something about the Bible.

  You learn verses and doctrine if nothing else.

  The latest study book is called "What does the Faithful Slave Really Teach (for now)"
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  A Google Search Trick to Quickly Search All Old Watchtower Publications - Like WT Library Online

  by LAWHFol in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  google has a feature called "advanced search" you can find more info here http://www.google.com/advanced_search.

  if you want to find all occurrences of one word or multiple words, use this google advanced search.. go to www.google.com.

  in the google search bar place your search word or words between quotes like this "anti type".

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  If you type in the above google search, once it returns the results you can save it to your bookmarks for future.

  I replaced "anti type" with "query" to remind me where to type my search string, so now have saved it for future searching.

  Thanks LAWHFol!
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  Does your product contain blood? 1960/70's twottery!!

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the 1960's early 70's i remember my congregation going on a witch hunt and making a list of products, ice creams, confectionary or anything that might contain blood!.

  i remember one zealous brother asking an ice cream vendor if the ice cream contained blood.

  the vendor just looked gone out!.

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  Splash

  LECITHIN

  
  May be derived from blood so ask the manufacturer -w63 2/15 p. 123 Carry Your Own Load of Responsibility

  For example, while lecithin is found in blood, it is also derived from soybeans, which happen to be the common commercial source of most lecithin. If there is doubt about a product, it is up to the individual to investigate by inquiring of the manufacturer. The substance may have been derived from blood or it may not.

  
  Is not derived from blood - no need to ask the manufacturer -w79 3/15 p. 31 Questions From Readers

  some Christians have refused to eat any product having lecithin listed as an ingredient. Others have felt compelled to write to manufacturers to check on the source of the lecithin used in certain foods... there is no reason for any manufacturer to seek to have lecithin extracted from blood.

  
  
  Once again (and with a hint of ridicule) it is 'some Christians', and 'others' who have 'felt compelled to write to manufacturers', no mention that they were TOLD to do so by the Governing Body.
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  Any good answers at this Sunday's WT?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously this weeks' wt has been part 3 of big changes in the doctrine.

  at the end i answered up saying along the lines of: "as we can see from the illustration box, when it comes to the reward being given to the slaves, divine appointment was not given in 1919. this will happen in future when the anointed get taken before armageddon".

  i couldn't bring myself to say "raptured at armageddon" as i think people might have taken a closer look at me...but it felt good to call out publicly the bull sh#t date of 1919 .

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  Splash

  The article starts by saying that this parable of the talents applies to the anointed. Next thing you know, we're discussing how it affects the non-anointed too.

  The memorial is also, supposedly, just for the anointed. Using their stretched application, the non-anointed should also partake.
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  1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

  "understanding the illustration of the talents".

  "when the master rewards the slaves.".

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  Splash

  So if the reward is now definitely future, do they still believe that some are already in heaven, assisting with communicating the truth?