Posts by Splash

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Jw streaming conventions kept tightly under wraps why??

by purrpurr in

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i have recently been given the ultra uber super duper secret convention login details to watch it on the streaming page.. with those details came a huge dose of "don't tell anyone else!

" "apostates might get hold of it and twist it against us!".

when you consider that the event itself is open to the public?.

Splash

There's no logical reason.

The real reason is that it gives them a sense of importance and feeds the persecution complex by saying apostates are forever trying to attack them.

It's control and nothing more.

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Worldly charity helps Jehovah's Witness child with life-threatening heart defect after Watchtower Society 'charity' refuses help

by jwleaks in

program sponsors child's medical procedure .

indiana, usa.

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/local_story/program-sponsors-children-s-me_1439338349.

Ettien, a Jehovah’s Witness, decided to write a letter to the religious organization’s U.S. headquarters, which referred him to the Gift of Life program. He learned about the local program and wrote another message to Riley Hospital for Children, which then connected him to the local Rotary Club.

Does this mean that the WT has reversed it's long held stance on giving to charities?

*** w50 12/15 p. 507 Religious Charity versus Good Works ***
It is no secret, many so-called “charity” organizations operate a fraud and racket. For example, the New York Times, September 6, 1950, carried an account of how certain “religious charitable organizations” operating in Brooklyn, New York, are giving the poor only 15 per cent of the money they beg from the public. God’s faithful people cannot afford to donate to such organizations. They must use what they have to preach this gospel of the established Kingdom for the benefit of the poor everywhere, as commanded.

*** w03 6/1 p. 7 Giving That Pleases God ***
When it comes to organized charity, though, we need to be cautious as we evaluate the many appeals we receive. Some charities have high administrative or fund-raising costs, leaving only a small portion of the collected money for the intended purpose. Proverbs 14:15 says: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” So it is the course of wisdom to examine the facts carefully.

There is a kind of giving that is even more important than charity. [...] In other words, as commendable and beneficial as charitable acts are, Christian discipleship involves more.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Remember (video)

by mulder_scully in

hi friends!.

i normally post over on /r/exjw but i've been reading more and more over here on this forum and found it incredibly supportive and informative.

i hope to participate in this community and become an active member.

Splash

I thought elders were required to be sound of mind.

Seems like these guys should be deleted because they no longer have any mind.

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How does the WTS view 'ancient humans' (i.e. fossils assigned to the genus Homo)?

by LoveUniHateExams in

having read i love ttatt's thread about evidence for humans living more than 6,000 years ago, i responded by using neanderthals and homo ergaster as evidence.

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this got me thinking about the wt's current view on 'cavemen' (), etc.. so, how does the wts view 'ancient humans'?

Splash

A fossil does not indicate that they were hairy.

'nuff said.

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I wish Geoffrey Jackson wasn't being questioned at all vs a video link...

by thedepressedsoul in

i'd rather them not even question him at this point.

by allowing a video link, they put the ball 100% in his court.

i don't get what they expect to accomplish by having a video link only.. 2. he won't feel any pressure.

Splash

All I'm hoping for are some answers to the questions Angus puts to him.

I'm hoping that GJ will finally realise what damage is being done and how poor and harmful the WT procedures are. If he can admit to that like the other elders and the expert witness did, that will be enough, a huge achievement in fact.

I don't expect anything significant to come of the questioning, certainly not any bombshells or revelations.

For me it will be of more consequence once the RC has made it's rulings, then to see if the WT tries to get out of implementing them.
Their tactic will be to agree to doing everything recommended, but then doing few or none of them in actuality.
They will rely on their crafty wording to play a game, as they always do.

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Worldly charity helps Jehovah's Witness child with life-threatening heart defect after Watchtower Society 'charity' refuses help

by jwleaks in

program sponsors child's medical procedure .

indiana, usa.

http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/local_story/program-sponsors-children-s-me_1439338349.

Splash

If they had written to the U.S. headquarters asking about doctrine, they would have received a much more comprehensive and personal response.

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Advice on Waiting for Jehovah

by Anon_SA1 in

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hi guys, .

in discussions with a current jw, they told me that have big concerns with regards to the 607 bce date, but they are waiting on jehovah for refining.

any suggestions on questions to pose to them based on their feedback?.

Splash

Lot's of examples where a faithful person did not 'wait on Jehovah' but did the right thing.

Look at the kings and judges, Moses, Daniel, Jehu, Jael, Jesus.
All these did what they knew to be right because they were faithful and jealous for God.

Examples of those who did wait expectantly while doing the wrong thing includes the pharisees.

"Wait on Jehovah" is nothing more than a cowardly excuse to justify inaction.
If you know something is wrong than you have a personal responsibility.

For a great resource on 587BCE vs 607BCE see this video series.
Lot's of short clips dealing with one aspect at a time.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Can't Remember (video)

by mulder_scully in

hi friends!.

i normally post over on /r/exjw but i've been reading more and more over here on this forum and found it incredibly supportive and informative.

i hope to participate in this community and become an active member.

Splash

Hi mulder_scully, nice mash-up!

One of the elders emotively stated he felt sickened by what he heard, but then went on to say he can't remember what he heard, just that he remembers being sickened by it.

I think the court room rolled their eyes at that point.

No credibility.

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Yes!!! We will see Jackson's face!

by OrphanCrow in

i emailed mr. stewart about jackson's testimony, asking if the video link would be visible to the public.. this was his prompt reply:.

thank you dianne for your interest.

the it people tell me that mr jackson will be on the screen for all to see and hear.regardsangus stewart.

Splash

Can the Governing Body function as the Faithful Slave is one of their number is missing?

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Questions for current and former elders re giving evidence

by Mickey mouse in

supposing you were called to give evidence by an inquiry.

how would you answer?

are you concerned that you may end up being called to give evidence for past involvement in judicial committees to future inquiries?

Splash

There is no process Mephis.

None of my BoE have any clue whatsoever about the legal side of the charity. Becoming an elder is purely about the WT organisation.

The one legal thing they do each year is hold an AGM and announce some figures to the congregation. Because our income is so low we don't even have to report our financials to the Charity Commission.