Iamallcool - your question doesn't make sense, I do not know what you are looking for.
find a quote saying that if a person stop attending the meetings because they are guilty of wrongdoing, etc
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12Guilty of wrongdoing articles.
by Iamallcool inif you can find a quote saying that if a person stop attending the meetings because they are guilty of wrongdoing, etc... i will appreciate it.
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WTBT$ will no longer support Elder's legally....
by Newly Enlightened inwe received an email and are wondering if anyone can verify this little tidbit of news.
does anyone know if this is true or not?.
maybe any elder's on here?.
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LongHairGal This will surely check the hand of aggressive, zealot elders.
It will, but only after there's a high profile case of an elder being prosecuted.
Until then they will still believe they are the untouchables.Splash.
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Sparlock increases his Satanic army
by Splash init's been confirmed by other religions.. satan is attacking us though the toys!!.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/10736999/lego-is-a-tool-of-satan-warns-polish-priest.html.
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It's been confirmed by other religions.
Satan is attacking us though the toys!!Splash
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Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!
by stuckinarut2 ini have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?
" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....
now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.
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Another line of reasoning is that the WT itself often refers us back to older publications:
*** w2011 2/15 p. 31 Do You Hate Lawlessness? ***
For a detailed discussion of this subject, see the September 15, 1981, issue of The Watchtower, pages 26-31*** w07 6/1 p. 14 From Scroll to Codex—How the Bible Became a Book ***
See the article “The Early Christian Codex,” in the August 15, 1962, issue of The Watchtower, pages 501-5.*** w07 9/1 p. 10 With Jehovah’s Help, We Survived Totalitarian Regimes ***
See the life story of Elsa Abt in The Watchtower, April 15, 1980, pages 12-15.*** w03 10/1 p. 19 Endurance Under Trials Brings Praise to Jehovah ***
see the 1974 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, pages 208-9You might also ask "at what point should I no longer believe the publications? - At what age do they become unmentionable?"
Depending on how they answer you can add "So when will today's WT instructions become old light that we are to dismiss?"Splash
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Need to find those Km or Wt articles encouraging all to read the old publications!
by stuckinarut2 ini have been dropping comments to a few re some classic old beliefs and teachings etc... and when asked "where did you read that, or how come you are saying such and such?
" i have replied "well, you remember we have often been told to study and research our old 'theocratic history' and 'old gems' of material?....
now though i have been challenged to prove where this has been printed!.
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Watchtower , February 15, 2013, p. 12, para, 18:
"We benefit from balanced consideration of the history of Jehovah’s organization... Moreover, we do well to examine our history, learn from it, and plan for the future."*** w12 1/15 p. 32 Preserving Gems From Our Past ***
In Writing Archives, diligent work is now under way to preserve and document our rich and growing legacy. Photographs carefully held in the Archives could be considered part of our “family album.” Our early publications, thrilling first-person accounts, and priceless memorabilia are also among the gems held in the Archives.Splash
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What Watchtower Belief/View Never Sat Right With You?
by minimus inbut their views on blood are just plain weird!
meat has blood in it even if it's bled.
still eating meat means consuming blood.
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As a youngster I could never understand how Babyon the Great fell in 1919.
*** re chap. 30 p. 206 par. 3 “Babylon the Great Has Fallen!” ***
"So the restoration of spiritual Israel in 1919 to a radiant spiritual prosperity, which continues and expands to this day, stands as evidence that Babylon the Great fell in that year. No longer does she have power of restraint over God’s people. Moreover, she has come into deep trouble within her own ranks. Since 1919 her corruption, dishonesty, and immorality have been widely exposed."For a start, BTG is more than just Christendom, and second, it is growing in size.
If expansion is an indicator of God's blessing, then BTG is being blessed.
And corruption? Dishonesty? Immorality? WT, where's your mirror?It never sat comfortable with me - I knew it was a fabrication. The disbelief of that played on my mind and never left me.
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Emotional cruelty law considered in the UK.
by nicolaou in"the (uk) government is considering whether to introduce a new offence of emotional cruelty to children, it has been confirmed.
the proposed change to neglect laws in england and wales would see parents who deny their children affection face prosecution for the first time.. mr williams's bill would add a further category of harm for which the perpetrator could be punished: impairment of "physical, intellectual, emotional, social or behavioural development".
i'd like to hear from mr paul gillies or any other watchtower representative in the uk as to how they'd square this proposed new legislation with their doctrine of disfellowshipping minors.
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"Impairment of intellectual development".
Start with all the home schooled JW kids.
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Have you ever wondered about the math?
by stillin inthis is strictly academic, but i have wondered whether the 144,000 might have been realized long ago.
we know from scripture that there were thousands "added" in the first century, and that according to the fds they were all of the anointed, heavenly-hope class.
ok, thousands.
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In 1925 there were 90,434 partakers, everyone who attended partook.
In 1935 there were 52,465 partakers, interestingly out of 63,146 attenders!
Add to this last years figure of 11,824 who would not be in the 1935 figure, and you're up to 64,289 partakers in the last 100 years (ish)
144,000 - 64,289 = 79,700 partakers between the first century and the 1935.
But in the first century there were 3,000 baptized in Acts 2:41;
"All of Samaria, both men and women" were baptized in Acts 8:9-12;
and "many Corinthians" in Acts 18:8-11 which took 1.5 years.
There are also many congregations mentioned in the scriptures, some written to, all full of baptized (anointed) people:
There were "many in Joppa" (Acts 9:42),"a great number from Antioch" (Acts 11:21),
"a great multitude in Iconium" (Acts 14:1),
"quite a few in Derbe" (Acts 14:21),
"a great multitude" in Thessalonica (Acts 17:4),
"Many" in Beroea (Acts 17:12),
"Jews and Greeks" in Corinth (Acts 18:4), and
"many thousands (literally 'myriads' - 10,000's) of Jews" (Acts 21:20).
Tacitus says that under Nero (2nd century) "a great multitude" of christians were executed.
During the many persecutions under Maximus, 1,900 Christians were martyred in Sicily alone.
Diocletian (3rd century) killed 17,000 in one month.
Eusebius says that during one of the persecutions, ten thousand men (not counting women and children) were killed in Egypt. The executioners blunted their swords and had to work in relays.
How many does that make?Splash
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Need an ex-elder or someone who knows
by Roberta804 init has been a long time since i have been here, but i need you guys now.
my mother-in-law is on her death been; most likely will not make it though the night.
my husband and i have sat with her for the past two days, she is totally unconcious.
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The above explanations are accurate.
But don't expect a eulogy, it will be a few words about her that leads into a discourse about JW theology.
Sorry to hear you are going through this, it must be a very difficult time for you all.
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WTBT$ will no longer support Elder's legally....
by Newly Enlightened inwe received an email and are wondering if anyone can verify this little tidbit of news.
does anyone know if this is true or not?.
maybe any elder's on here?.
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In business you would only give authority and responsibility to those who merited it through experience and demonstrated capabilities.
Elders are given authority and responsibility on the basis they merely turn up for the meetings regularly with a multicoloured underlined magazine, and do 10 hours ministry per month. Most don't know how to follow instructions and have no common sense whatsoever, thinking their juvenile decisions are beyond reproach.
I can see some now, on the platform condemning homosexuality in such a way as to be guilty of hate crime, or making ridiculous decisions that impact peoples lives. It's only a matter of time before it all blows up again.
No wonder the elders are causing the WT so many problems that they want to drop all liability for them.
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