I would like to see individual elders being held to account over their actions, and them being personally prosecuted / fined.
When this happens I think the role of 'elder' will not be such a sought after one.
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26Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow
by Adwoa Kromo insir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.
in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".
from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.
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Blondie's Comments You Won't Hear at the 06-28-2015 WT Study (TRUST JAH)
by blondie in6-28-15 blondies comments trust in jehovah (4/15/15 study wt).
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/ .
so how does the wts start out in the first paragraph?.
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Splash
That part about how Jehovah answers us like a father answers his children was deceptive.
The reasoning went...
"Recall that he likens our relationship with him to that of children with a father. (Ps. 103:13) A child cannot rightly expect a parent to grant every request or to do so right away. Some of a child’s requests may be mere passing whims. Others must wait till the time is right. Still others may not be in the child’s best interests or in the best interests of others involved."
But notice Ps 103:13 is referenced : "As a father shows mercy to his sons, Jehovah has shown mercy to those who fear him."
This verse is not about little children, it is about 'sons'. The context shows that these 'sons' are actually independent persons and likened to 'mortal man'.
If we are like little children then we should allow someone to take responsibility for us and make decisions for us.
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Sir David Eady to give judgement on the Watctower Appeal in the Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower case at the High Court tommorrow
by Adwoa Kromo insir david eady sitting as high court judge will hand down judgement tomorrow at 11:00am in the appeal of the decision from master leslie for refusing to strike out the claim as an abuse of process.
in his judgement in november 2014 he stated in his judgement delivered ex-tempore " i am bound to say that this case causes me a good deal of trouble".
from notes that i have from the hearing last week, i will be utterly surprised if the retired judge sir david eady takes a different view.
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Looking Back In Retrospect To 1975...
by titch ingreetings, folks: so, it's been 40 years since 1975. and, if you were actively involved with the witnesses back then, the mindset of many was, that by early autumn of 1975, it would mark the anniversary of 6000 years of human existence.
and, the hope was then, that it would mark the start of the 1000-year of christ, from the heavenly realm.
but, looking back now, 40 years ago, in june of 1975, only 3 more months remained until early autumn.
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They have been teaching wrong things for over a century and all of their teachings have passed away unfulfilled.
It's fitting that Jesus exposes them in Matt 5:18-19:
"Truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one stroke of a letter to pass away from the Law until all things take place. Whoever, therefore, breaks one of these least commandments and teaches others to do so will be called least in relation to the Kingdom of the heavens."Ironically, I learned this verse at the recent convention!
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Is there new name tags for Circuit Assembly?
by Iamallcool ini noticed someone on facebook wearing his name tag.
i did not contact him and ask him.
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What the Governing Body found out when they ' did the math'
by Esse quam videri instephen lett may 2015 broadcast.
14:45 ... the governing body very much feels the urgency of accomplishing as much as we possibly can, in behalf of kingdom interests, knowing that the great day of jehovah is near....
... in an effort to inform you of the support that is needed for this great work, i have the following information to share.
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Driving Force did you not feel sick listening to the moron Lett for so long?
Sometimes you've gotta take one for the team.
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Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention
by JW_Rogue inhi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.
during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.
the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.
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Or - If we begin with a date when absolutely nothing happened, link backwards a load of unrelated phrases from all over the Bible, we find a start date that has no basis in history. This will become the foundation for all subsequent teachings. -
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Demons
by Pattytheperfect1 inthis isn't a joke and i don't post here often but i had a conversation with my grandma i found comical and thought i'd share.
my uncle lives far away and my grandma wants to go visit him but says she is afraid of the demons in his rental home.
she is afraid a demon might follow her home.
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Tell Grandma that you researched this on the Society CD ROM and she's right, demons not only inhabit homes and frighten people by moving clothes around, but some people have even got demons by talking to someone on the phone who lives in a demonised home.
Tell her that letters from one person to another can be contaminated with demons, and the best way to protect herself is to break off all contact until he gets rid of them.
Let them start shunning one another for their stupidity and gullability.
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What the Governing Body found out when they ' did the math'
by Esse quam videri instephen lett may 2015 broadcast.
14:45 ... the governing body very much feels the urgency of accomplishing as much as we possibly can, in behalf of kingdom interests, knowing that the great day of jehovah is near....
... in an effort to inform you of the support that is needed for this great work, i have the following information to share.
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*** TV.JW.ORG May 2015 JW Broadcasting *** - Quotes from Stephen Lett:
08:50 For 130 years this organisation has never solicited for funds and is certainly not going to start now.
11:00 Millions of dollars are required each month to finance the colossal kingdom work.
12:20 We in no way want to be categorised with other organisations that coerce their supporters to donate
12:35 All of us have the privilege to donate funds.
12:45 We have many scriptural examples of Jehovah's servants making known the financial needs.
15:05 In an effort to keep you informed of the support that is needed... We've found that the amount of money flowing out will be much greater than the amount of money that we have coming in.*
17:00 There are some facts we want to make you aware of. The financial needs have accelerated at a rate unlike any time in the past.
20:00 Upwards of 170 Regional Translation Offices are needed... An RTO costs from about $1m to several million dollars each, hence we have another reason we need to increase our finances.
20:40 We just felt that you brothers and sisters needed to be made aware of these expenditures.
26:45 We have confidence that our hearts will be moved to contribute what we can each month.
28:30 We felt... that you would apply Pr 3:27 where we're encouraged "not to withhold what is good"... and this is true even of publishers in less affluent countries.
29:20 If our heart is willing there is something we can usually do even if it's merely two small coins.
29:50 A small donation from each of Jehovah's people adds up to a large amount.
31:30 The Governing Body wanted to make you aware of the financial needs in the world field.
*Luke 14:28, 29 - "Who of you wanting to build a tower does not first sit down and calculate the expense to see if he has enough to complete it? Otherwise, he might lay its foundation but not be able to finish it, and all the onlookers would start to ridicule him." -
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False messengers!
by Diogenesister in"jehovah god is the grand identifier of his true messengers.
he identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true.
jehovah is also the great exposer of false messengers.
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And while you're at it Diogenesister you might want to show them these:
*** ts chap. 5 p. 46 What Is This Thing Called "Soul"? ***
"It is obvious that the true God, who is himself "the God of truth" and who hates lies, will not look with favor on persons who cling to organizations that teach falsehood. And, really, would you want to be even associated with a religion that had not been honest with you?"-- w72 4/1 p.197
"it is easy to say that this group [Jehovah's Witnesses] act as a 'prophet' of God. It is another thing to prove it. The only way that this can be done is to review the record. What does it show?"-- WT 2012 15/06 p.28 para 11: "We never get bad advice from the Bible. Humans, on the other hand, are simply not wise enough to recommend what always works. (Jer. 10:23) Their advice is constantly being revised and updated as they come to realize that earlier advice was flawed. "The thoughts of men," says the Bible, "are as an exhalation."— Ps. 94:11"