has anybody confronted any jws with the royal commission reports on the news yet?
i showed my 8-year old daughter a newspaper headline about it, and when she told my jw wife that the jws in australia were in trouble for not reporting over 1,000 child abusers to police, her response was "oh, really?
well, i don't know what the rules are over there.
disillusioned 2 I am in UK and as far as I know there has been nothing in the news or newspapers over here
It's been in the Telegraph, Mirror, Daily Mail, Guardian and on the BBC.
To not know about it you'd have to be like the elder interviewed today - someone who doesn't watch the news or listen to the radio.
(let me know if anyone thinks my assumptions are way out of line, or if i've forgotten anything).
basic facts:.
the australian royal commission has 1000+ documented cases of child abuse over 65 years.
It was 1006 different abusers.
These are the ones which are known, of course.
i have just finished listening to this man jackson.
i remember him well.
he is twisting things around as much as he is allowed.
Lots of very vague answers like "we have received lots of information since then" and "we do that different now", all without evidence or substance.
Amazing how the commission has picked up how the CO's letter to the branch was so sympathetic towards the abuser, even to the point of downgrading his offence from Loose Conduct to Repeated Uncleanness.
the royal commission hearing starting on monday, july 27, 2015 - australian day and date - (and it could go on until august 7th depending on how many witnesses testify) regarding jehovah's witnesses handling of child abuse is supposed to be streamed.. it could be that the hearing will only be audio not video although we were informed it will be streamed.
we'll find out in a few hours.. i live in the central time zone of the us and right now here it is sunday, 3: 45 pm.
in sydney, australia, it is 15 hours ahead of us.
I think that CO was winging it.
I don't believe there are letters that have been written since 2010 that have replaced the procedures being painfully scrutinised.
I believe he will be called out on this and his Theocratic Warfare tactics will backfire.
i have just finished listening to this man jackson.
i remember him well.
he is twisting things around as much as he is allowed.
Thanks possum. I'm so very sorry to hear this has touched you and your family personally.
An elder can always get away with "just do as you're told" within the congregation.
Now they are having their feet held to the flames, they are beginning to see how fragile their authority is, and how reckless their policies are. This is a line of questioning they would never allow themselves to face in any other situation.
They refuse recording devices in their own JC 'courts' but here they are in front of the cameras for the world to see. These so called glorious ones are being exposed as incompetent, unloving and self-preserving. The modern day pharisee.
68min of grilling.
so many highlights.
love seeing the hears grinding as they are asked questions... you can see the conflict in their mind as they weigh the .org's response vs the right one to make.
paedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.
1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.
counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.
If 30% of these 1000+ known abusers have since died, that leaves about 700, not counting all those who are not on any list.
Incidentally 700 is roughly the number of congregations in Australia, so on average there's an abuser in every congregation.
*** w13 11/15 p. 14 par. 17 How Can We Maintain “a Waiting Attitude”? ***
"Now is the time to return to our heavenly Father’s loving arms and to the congregation—the only safe haven in these last days."
i have just finished listening to this man jackson.
i remember him well.
he is twisting things around as much as he is allowed.
possum I personally (used to) know some of the elders they are going to call and its not going to be pretty!!
What do you mean by this possum, that there are more sacrificial lambs, or that they are tenacious and aggressive?
already on its first day of hearing, this case makes headlines on the other side of the globe.
swedish regional newspaper carries this coverage:.
http://www.vk.se/1496701/jehovas-vittnen-dolde-sexovergrepp.
BBC News have just added an online article about it.
A second article in the UK Guardian about how notes were destroyed.
Same second story in the Daily Mail.
paedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.
1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.
counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.
