Posts by Splash

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Do you believe Jehovah's Witnesses' Governing Body is the "faithful slave"?

by Marvin Shilmer in

this question is known to be posed by jws to other jws as an acid test of loyalty.

i'm not the first to notice what i'm about to point out and comment accordingly, but today i felt compelled to add a short article on my blog highlighting the new language that governing body member geoffrey jackson supplies as a response.

a person who honestly hesitates to respond with a robust "yes!

Splash

Fisherman According to your article, the man was not asked if he was "the faithful and discreet slave." He was asked: "...do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople." He responded (clarifying that the FDS are not God's only spokespeople) that others too in the congregation could act and speak with God's Holy Spirit. He meant that God uses other JW (exclusively) besides the GB.

You missed the word "evidently".

Do you know what it means to speak the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
It means that you speak fully and plainly.
If you have to engage in literary gymnastics to validate something to yourself, then either GJ wasn't speaking the whole truth, or you are anxiously trying to twist things to your fragile belief system.

I suspect both of these are true.

Sounds to me like GJ is not the self-appointed spokesman for God, but you are the self-appointed spokesman for GJ.

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Serious question about the Australian RC and the WTBTS.

by DATA-DOG in

i have not been in a position to watch all of the interviews, so i'm sure that i missed a few things.

here is my question.

were either elders or ministerial servants accused of sexually abusing children, or were the accused just lowly r&f publishers or bible studies?

Splash

I thought bystander guilt was a personal, moral guilt felt by someone who did not act to prevent something happening when they had the opportunity.

Does you mean it will become a recognised crime?

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The Kingdom Halls are empty

by punkofnice in

my jw spies tell me that the kingdom halls are empty compared to how they used to be, since i left 5 years ago.

not saying they're empty because of me though.. is that what you are hearing?.

Splash

When we dedicate our lives to Jehovah, there's no going back.

Seems it's different when we dedicate a kingdom hall to Jehovah.

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If you were undeniably anointed with holy spirit what would you do?

by Splash in

so you have had some kind of supernatural revelation, a personal message from god and some miraculous sign that you have been personally chosen by the almighty, what would you do?.

would you be the same as every other wt'ite, dragging yourself to the meetings, getting your 10 hours in each month, maybe pioneering?.

listen!

Splash

I think I'm seeing a theme appear

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As a Matter of Conscience, I Am Resigning from the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses

by Sail Away in

after listening to the hearings of the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse, i am no longer content to have simply walked away from the organization.

as a matter of conscience, i do not want my name linked with the organization in any way.

i know this letter has been posted previously, and i thank the author.

Splash

Please keep us posted as to the results.

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If you were undeniably anointed with holy spirit what would you do?

by Splash in

so you have had some kind of supernatural revelation, a personal message from god and some miraculous sign that you have been personally chosen by the almighty, what would you do?.

would you be the same as every other wt'ite, dragging yourself to the meetings, getting your 10 hours in each month, maybe pioneering?.

listen!

Splash

So you have had some kind of supernatural revelation, a personal message from God and some miraculous sign that you have been personally chosen by the Almighty, what would you do?

Would you be the same as every other WT'ite, dragging yourself to the meetings, getting your 10 hours in each month, maybe pioneering?

Listen! You have been given the rarest of callings. God Chose You!!! What are you going to do?

It beggars belief that all those who have this special anointing are not Jeremiah's, Moses's, Daniel's, Peter's, known around the world, the new sons of thunder, clamouring to be interviewed by the authorities and media, but instead they just blend into the blandness of routine activity.

GOD CHOSE YOU for heaven's sake! What are you going to do??

Chug along to the latest, simplified WT nonsense, defend the clowns on their internet channel, watch quietly and ashamedly as Satan's world exposes the WT leaders as 'medieval' in their approach to child abuse?
How humiliating. How pitiable.

Shame on all the anointed for doing nothing.
Shame on all the anointed for being passive when the scriptures advocate zeal.
Shame for standing idly by while the scriptures get corrupted and Jesus sheep are abused and mislead.

If you are undeniably anointed yet shirk your responsibility of defending the teachings of Jesus, kowtowing to the 21st century pharisees in NY, then you don't deserve to be partaking of the emblems. Jesus will be embarrassed to call you brothers.

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"I am Happy to be Controlled" - Edinburgh Elder on Cult Cart

by cofty in

so my wife and i were up in edinburgh for the weekend for the international festival - we had a great weekend including going to see the military tattoo at the castle.. we were walking up the royal mile watching the street performers among hundreds of thousands of others from all over the world when i spotted the cult cart in it's usual spot being universally ignored.

feeling confident after my confrontation a couple of weeks ago we decided to go and have a chat with the two men.

i asked them if they were keeping up with the events in australia and proceeded to share lots of information with them.

Splash

I must get up to Edinburgh one day, maybe hop on a train.

When I'm confronted with non-thinkers who 'would shun their children', or 'would die rather than take blood', and so on, I ask "but what if the rules change and you no longer have to shun or refuse blood, would you change your view too?"

If they say they would change (as they have to, since they are mandated to let the GB think on their behalf) then I point out that actually they are following men then, and not the Bible.

It rarely triggers any reaction, but then again what am I expecting from someone who can no longer think?

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List the lies from the Royal Commision

by Crazyguy in

i was not able to watch all the video's and i'm sure many others we not able as well.

many have stated that the elders and the gb member lied.

i thought it's would be a good idea to list the lies and which video and at what minute mark, that way all could see and reference for themselves.

Splash

Billy the Ex started a good topic on this and captured some howlers.

gb-member-geoffrey-jackson-lying

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Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

by defender of truth in

of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

Splash

She will be quoted in an Awake next year.

"According to Anne Cossins, a law professor, expert and consultant, '[Jehovah's Witnesses] have emerged as [...] able, [...] willing to deal with sexual abuse within it's ranks'."

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Geoffrey Jackson's Amnesia at the Royal Commission!

by The Searcher in

at 20:00 - 21:30 in his testimony, mr. geoffrey jackson - in answer to mr. stewart's question about the governing body claiming to be god's spokespersons - claimed that it would be presumptuous of them to say that they were the only spokespersons which god was using.

mr. jackson doesn't seem to know what he and his fellow g.b.

members - and the providers of his lifestyle, the wtbts - actually teach as "bible truth.

Splash

This is the way the organisation is, not just Jeffrey Jackson.

They don't have a concrete stance on anything, but constantly revise their position and reinterpret their own words.
Good grief, they even put new meaning into well established words in order to distort, confuse and allow room for maneuver.

(Micah 6:12) . . .their tongue is tricky in their mouth.