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  "The governing body has asked me to..."

  by OverlappingGeneralizations in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard that phrase several times on the jw broadcast, uttered by gb members!

  "the governing body has asked me to bring to your attention (whatever)".

  aren't you the governing body?

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  The elders do the same, its a way of dodging responsibility.

  Instead of saying "me and Bro x have decided you can't have a beard", its " the BoE have decided..."

  It's a form of cowardice, hiding behind a faux label.
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  Local Congregation Takes Away My Dad's Phone Hook-Up (HE'S 85 YRS. OLD)

  by NoMoreHustle in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this happened about 6 months ago, didn't really have an opportunity to post about it (been busy), but they still haven't given back his password for the phone hook-up.

  they say that this is direction from the "branch office".

  i think it's complete bs, the real reason why they are doing this is to punish me & my family because i am basically a ghost when it comes to meetings & any type of activity.

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  Write to bethel.

  Tell them your father contributes to the running costs, but the elders have stopped him listening in.
  Say that you are writing to bethel because the elders are telling you they are following branch directions.

  Explain that you have spoken to lots of witnesses at your hall and in your circuit about this and they are all disgusted at the unloving way the elders are abusing their power.
  Then tell them that as a consequence your father no longer contributes and can no longer attend.

  End by saying that you are only letting them know what's going on, and do not wish to hear back from them.
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  Sad News: Girl of JW parents with schizophrenia murders two siblings

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a very sad and disturbing case in mexico.. used google translate.

  ask me if the translation is not clear:.

  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=utf-8&u=http%3a%2f%2flaverdadnoticias.com%2fnina-de-11-anos-mato-a-sus-hermanos-porque-satanas-se-lo-ordeno%2f570605%2f&edit-text=.

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  The WT has never been very big on professional help for mental disorders, sometimes categorising it along with advice from taxi drivers and hair dressers. The WT message is that reading the Bible and going on the ministry is the solution to medical depression.

  *** w99 4/1 pp. 3-4 A Book of Wisdom With a Message for Today ***
  "But where can such wisdom be found today? People turn to advice columnists, psychologists, psychiatrists, even hairdressers and taxi drivers, with their personal problems. And experts without number are ready to dispense advice on almost any subject—for a suitable fee. Often, though, such words of “wisdom” have led only to disappointment, even disaster. How, then, can we find true wisdom?

  Tomoe suffered from major depression and spent most of her days in bed...
  When Tomoe told the neighbor how worthless she felt, the neighbor showed her a text from a book...

  By applying the wisdom she had found, Tomoe overcame the gloomy days of her depression. Now Tomoe works full-time at helping others to apply the same words that enabled her to cope with her problems. "
  

  
  
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  Whoa ! maybe it's not as good here in Oz as I thought!

  by wozza in

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  2. friends

  found this on my facebook page that someone had posted , just a joke i hope .

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  Here's the original

  
  
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  My 67 Year Old Elder Brother Is Depressed Because The Younger Elders Are Taking Over

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he was the school overseer but they relieved him of that to allow younger elders the privilege of the job.

  now he is depressed and actually shed tears, believing his worth has diminished.

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  If it was felt that he has struggled lately with that job, organising the school or counselling the students, he might have been relieved of that responsibility.

  I've seen capable men just get old and tired, and their responsibilities become harder and harder to fulfill.

  Maybe it was for this reason, in which case he should try to see it as a relief, though I can understand how he would feel like it is a demotion.

  Remind him how the CO's are dropped once they reach 70, or bethelites are retired from bethel when they reach a certain point. This might show him that it is an organisational procedure and he shouldn't take it personally.
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  How are you spreading TTATT?

  by vinman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if anyone has used any underhanded ways of spreading ttatt.

  i mean, has anyone made up business cards or tracts and spread them far and wide?

  i would love to engage in this "alternative witnessing".

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  I talk about what's in the news about JW's - typically abuse court cases, TV programs and now the Royal Commission.

  I challenge statements that are taken as given such as Armageddon is soon or the world is getting worse.

  I toss out ideas to discuss which are easily disprovable such as New scrolls, the Generation teaching etc.

  I also ask why the WT includes certain scriptures at the end of a paragraph that actually has no relevance whatsoever to do with the statements just made in the paragraph. They do this a lot.
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  UK TV--next monday 24th aug---channel 5-----9 pm--escaping the witnesses

  by stan livedeath in

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  2. friends

  just see it advertised on tv--with photo of our friend from south wales

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  punkofnice It's a shame they let the WBT$ have the final say without those crafty words being critiqued and put into perspective.

  Immediately prior to this statement they broadcast a similar one from the Scientologists.
  Having the very obviously dishonest statement by Scientology followed by the WT statement made a point.

  It said that Scientology tells lies. The WT are like Scientology. The WT cannot be trusted either.
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  UK TV--next monday 24th aug---channel 5-----9 pm--escaping the witnesses

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just see it advertised on tv--with photo of our friend from south wales

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  "If a family member has been shunned or disfellowshipped, that does not sever the family ties and normal day to day dealings may continue"

  Any active JW hearing this will know it's a lie, the rules on treating DF'd persons are well known and understood.

  Their blatant lies may yet cause some to pause for thought.
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  Was lett's video about child abuse claims as apostate lies removed??

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i saw the original video months ago but forgot which video it was, but i read in another thread somebody claiming that video was removed.

  is that true?

  i couldn't find a thread talking about this.

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  Is Tomo's video about child abuse still up as well?
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  Geoffrey Jackson on "corporal punishment"

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here is another jackson's misleading answer, from the transcript of august 14 :.

  25 q. do you accept corporal punishment?

  29 a. not not personally, no, and not as an organisation 30 we don't encourage it.

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  g72 9/22 p. 29 Watching the World - "Religious 'Credibility Gap'"

  ♦ Politicians have reputations for distorting truth. The 'Pentagon papers' affair in 1971 highlighted their 'credibility gap.' Journalists and advertisers are also guilty of deception. And the clergy? Veteran United Press International writer Louis Cassels says: "Time and again, as a reporter covering religious news, I have found church spokesmen resorting to deliberate obfuscations [confusions] and torturing the truth in an effort to keep the public in the dark about what actually happened in a particular situation."

  
  

  Guiltyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!