in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.
(proclaimers book page 717).
according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.
Don't forget the early congregations:
There were "many in Joppa" (Acts 9:42),
"a great number from Antioch" (Acts 11:21),
"a great multitude in Iconium" (Acts 14:1),
"quite a few in Derbe" (Acts 14:21),
"a great multitude" in Thessalonica (Acts 17:4),
"Many" in Beroea (Acts 17:12),
"Jews and Greeks" in Corinth (Acts 18:4), and
"many thousands (literally 'myriads' - 10,000's) of converted Jews" (Acts 21:20).
request for personal data erasure under gdpr refused on clause which says religious organisations can keep records.
the following is in their privacy policy:.
upon receipt of your written request, after you provide sufficient evidence of your identity and enough information to permit us to identify your personal data, the applicable data controller will fairly consider granting the request by balancing the interests of the individual in gaining access to data or correcting or deleting data against the legitimate interests of the organization, including whether granting the request would endanger the organization’s right to religious freedom and practice.
It will come down to whether the org would prefer to delete any of your data or not.
Anything incriminating against them and it'll go. Everything else they'll keep.
It doesn't really matter what the law requires, JW's aren't bound by such trivialities.
in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.
i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.
it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.
Simon the apostate governing body
I also like the False Prophet governing body. It''s provable and already carries a well understood meaning.
Simon should have a script that inserts a prefix every time 'governing body' appears in a new post.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.. racially a very mixed family.
we just looked like average white, working class brits.
dad was in the marine commandos in ww2.
Nice to read your story Paul, thanks for sharing.
After meeting the Punkster I can confirm that he's a top bloke.
Stick a guitar in his hands and you'll be amazed.
Take care buddy.
2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
Atlantis, I misquoted his name. Its actually MeanMrMustard, sorry!
He was active in a thread recently using his devastating logic on someone lol.
2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
Atlantis An Elder and I received a BOE 3 days ago and the BOE was dated from 2017. A full year ago and we already have the BOE in collection.
Maybe you could get someone skilled like MeanMrMustard to compare the 2017 and 2018 PDFs at a binary or hex level to see if there are differences (e.g. scanning codes).
It would be good to know for certain if WT are trying to close down leakers this way.
Edit: fixed MMM's name
i have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.
between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.
also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?
If they press you into responding ask:
"Can I fulfill all of my scriptural obligations without signing the form? If not, which scriptural obligations are affected, and why?"
"In the instructions you received for getting people to sign this form, does it say that you must not pressure people to sign it? That being so, if I refuse to sign it, should that be the end of the matter?"
"If you wish to speak to me about my refusal to sign the form, would you object if I recorded the discussion?"
https://youtu.be/j3htfvmgr50.
So what does it mean when the GB don't have a unanimous decision on something, as they have previously stated in the WT?
I guess they just refer to the higher authority - TM3.
i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.
apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.
luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.
2RM It's quite simple, really. The rich man has more than he needs, and the starving have less than they need. Morality, in this scenario, is simply a matter of ensuring both have adequate for their needs.
It's not just simple, it's simplistic.
The poor man would be better served by education, a great business case, hard work and a loan, not a handout.
Why do you think multi billionaire philanthropists refuse to simply give their wealth away? It's because they know that simplistic ideas like yours don't work.
Your. Idea. Doesn't. Work.
It doesn't matter how long you bang on about it, how elaborately you state it or how many people you insult who point out your lack of logic and comprehension, it won't make an unworkable idea workable.
You keep telling people to reread the thread, so my advice to you is the same. Reread the thread. Open your ears. Think. Up your game. Learn. Your proposition is kindergarten level economics.
talking about tomorrow's wt study, that mentions over a quarter of a million baptized every year, a jw asked how many that is a day.
i got out my calculator and answered over 778 a day.
of course they were amazed at the growth, but immediatly i googled another statistic and read it aloud:.
Roughly 280,000 baptised.
Minus 1% of the 8 million jw's who die every year (80,000)
Minus another 1% (80,000) disfellowshipped each year
Gives an increase of 120,000, approximately 1.5% per year, and does not include faders.
This is not dissimilar to the world population growth rate of 1.1%, certainly nothing to brag about or stake a claim that the growth is God's doing.
