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  Upcoming Tidal Wave of Media Onslaught targeting Jehovah's Witnesses ahead...

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  at least three media venues have undertaken the daunting task of unpacking the insidious dark side of jehovah's witnesses' organization.1.

  douglas quenqua is a writer based in new york.

  his work has appeared in the new york times, wired, redbook, and cnbc.

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  Vidiot if any dyed-in-the-wool JW starts decrying this stuff as "apostate-driven lies"

  Just show them the clip of Jackson at the ARC

  In this clip Jackson admits:

  • There have been problems in the JW organization, just like other organizations.

  • These child abuse problems have existed for 20-30 years within the organization.

  • The JW organization and it's elders are not immune from the problems of child sexual abuse.

  • Those highlighting these issues are not attacking JW's or their beliefs.

  • The person making the accusations do not matter, only if the accusation has a basis.

  • They want to treat victims in a loving way
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  They are increasingly appealing to emotion

  by cookiemaster in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they always have but lately, they've taken it to a whole new level.

  the new convention video about the end, the many videos at conventions and meetings, the new songs, all highly emotionally manipulative.

  and they're working.

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  These extreme videos will wake some up.

  It will dawn on some that sci-fi movies have no place in religion because religion should be more than superficial special effects set to a dramatic and emotional soundtrack.

  They will realise that there's nothing of substance left anymore.
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  Don't forget the early congregations:

  There were "many in Joppa" (Acts 9:42),

  "a great number from Antioch" (Acts 11:21),

  "a great multitude in Iconium" (Acts 14:1),

  "quite a few in Derbe" (Acts 14:21),

  "a great multitude" in Thessalonica (Acts 17:4),

  "Many" in Beroea (Acts 17:12),

  "Jews and Greeks" in Corinth (Acts 18:4), and

  "many thousands (literally 'myriads' - 10,000's) of converted Jews" (Acts 21:20).
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  Getting personal data erased

  by Damascus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  request for personal data erasure under gdpr refused on clause which says religious organisations can keep records.

  the following is in their privacy policy:.

  upon receipt of your written request, after you provide sufficient evidence of your identity and enough information to permit us to identify your personal data, the applicable data controller will fairly consider granting the request by balancing the interests of the individual in gaining access to data or correcting or deleting data against the legitimate interests of the organization, including whether granting the request would endanger the organization’s right to religious freedom and practice.

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  It will come down to whether the org would prefer to delete any of your data or not.

  Anything incriminating against them and it'll go. Everything else they'll keep.

  It doesn't really matter what the law requires, JW's aren't bound by such trivialities.
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  The Label Of "Apostate" And It's Effects

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.

  i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.

  it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.

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  Simon the apostate governing body

  I also like the False Prophet governing body. It''s provable and already carries a well understood meaning.

  Simon should have a script that inserts a prefix every time 'governing body' appears in a new post.
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  Interview with an Apostate: punkofnice (all about that funny Brit, Unky Punky)

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  tell us a little about yourself and your family.. racially a very mixed family.

  we just looked like average white, working class brits.

  dad was in the marine commandos in ww2.

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  Nice to read your story Paul, thanks for sharing.

  After meeting the Punkster I can confirm that he's a top bloke.

  Stick a guitar in his hands and you'll be amazed.

  Take care buddy.
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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  Atlantis, I misquoted his name. Its actually MeanMrMustard, sorry!

  He was active in a thread recently using his devastating logic on someone lol.
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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  Atlantis An Elder and I received a BOE 3 days ago and the BOE was dated from 2017. A full year ago and we already have the BOE in collection.

  Maybe you could get someone skilled like MeanMrMustard to compare the 2017 and 2018 PDFs at a binary or hex level to see if there are differences (e.g. scanning codes).

  It would be good to know for certain if WT are trying to close down leakers this way.

  Edit: fixed MMM's name
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  advice please/data protection

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have just received an email from an elder's wife regarding the new data protection laws.

  between the lines it sounds like she has been asked to contact me.. she says they 'don't want to leave me out' so they want me to fill out the form as 'i'm still part of the congregation'.

  also, my blood card needs updating, apparently.. the elder in charge will be in contact.. obviously, i'm not doing either, but what do i do?

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  If they press you into responding ask:

  "Can I fulfill all of my scriptural obligations without signing the form? If not, which scriptural obligations are affected, and why?"

  "In the instructions you received for getting people to sign this form, does it say that you must not pressure people to sign it? That being so, if I refuse to sign it, should that be the end of the matter?"

  "If you wish to speak to me about my refusal to sign the form, would you object if I recorded the discussion?"
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  David Splanes how to get everyone to agree when voting in elders meetings

  by Kevin McFree in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/j3htfvmgr50.

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  So what does it mean when the GB don't have a unanimous decision on something, as they have previously stated in the WT?

  I guess they just refer to the higher authority - TM3.