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  Some reasons shunning is so very effective...

  by Sabine in

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  2. friends

  i feel so sad about our friend ary, and my prominant memory of him is the sad look in his eyes when he spoke of his daughters.

  he was aware of how we lost our daughter, and he even felt bad complaining because at least his daughters were alive.

  i told him not to feel that way, that at least we could find a measure of closure, but he was on a constant roller coaster ride.

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  I feel so sad about our friend Ary, and my prominant memory of him is the sad look in his eyes when he spoke of his daughters. He was aware of how we lost our daughter, and he even felt bad complaining because at least his daughters were alive. I told him not to feel that way, that at least we could find a measure of closure, but he was on a constant roller coaster ride. Our daughter committed suicide seven years ago now, and after reading the six page letter she left there is no doubt that fear of being disfellowshiped was the main reason she took her own life. Over the years I have thought about the great power of shunning someone. In my own personal experience, eventhough I feel I am doing as best as can be expected after losing someone so precious to me in such a horrible way, I still "pay the price". You see, the only people that knew our wonderful daughter were all JWs. When someone dies, all you are left with are your precious memories of that person. Years after the pain subsides, in a normal family or group of friends, you can enjoy sharing the plesant memories of that person. There is no one we can recall all the great things about our daughter with. Sure our new friends know about her, have heard about her many qualities and accomplishments, but it just isn't the same. So even though we are totally out from under the JW's cult, they still have a small measure of power over us. Another reason shunning is so effective was made clear to me in one of my favorite books "The Hidden Messages in Water". This book was written by a Japanese scientist (Dr. Emoto) who discovered that molecules of water are affected by our thoughts, words and feelings. He did one experiment that just blew me away. He had families keep three jars of water with rice in them on their kitchen counter. One jar they expressed positive words to, the next jar they expressed negative words to and the third jar was totally ignored. The jar that was totally ignored rotted the fastest! This happened time after time the experiment was repeated. I feel one of the most damaging things you can do is purposely ignore someone. Organized religions figured this out a long time ago, unfortunately. The empowering message in this book was that we all have the healing power of love and gratitude. Our bodies and our earth are mostly made of water, we all have the power through our words, thoughts and feelings to make positive changes. I also wanted to thank all of you for your loving expressions regarding Ary's death. I'm not on the computer much these days, but will always appreciate this board and how important it was to our family when we felt so all alone and ignored by everyone we knew for 40+ years in the cult. Love to you all, Sabine
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  WHAT OFFENDS YOU PERSONALLY?

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  words?

  images?

  do you want to be protected from anything offensive?

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  Sabine

  The Hilton sisters...this is the best one of the wealthiest families in the US can produce...

  what a shame!
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  Look at me now !!!!

  by Puternut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a 48 year old good looking fart.

  i am moving to maui, but not alone, octavia is moving with me.

  she is a gorgeous woman, we are free spirits, we embrace the world with confidence.

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  I'm so happy for you Puternut, as you know we will be joining you and retiring in Maui in a year or so....some people have sell their souls to a godless cult with the hope of living in paradise...others just make it happen!
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  So What The Hell Are You?

  by shamus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  according to dubdom, what are you?

  i am a lame weakass lamb who goes on apostate websites who faded.

  in the real world i am free from mind control.

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  I'm a lawsuit waiting to happen...they know they f**ked up so badly in our case, they just totally ignore us and hope we move away. Makena was never removed as an elder officially! They are just lucky wrongful death in a suicide case is nearly impossible to prove.
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  Deleted's Top 5 Poll #4 - What do you relish in now that you couldn't then?

  by Deleted in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  happy father's day y'all!.

  mine are: .

  1. indulging in the unholy trinity - weed, scotch and cigars .

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  Sabine

  I'd agree with most of yours and add, donating my time and money to truly worthwhile causes!! The next two months I'm donating my time to train triathletes for a brest cancer fundraiser triathlon in Seattle.

  I love animals and donate a lot to the humane societys in Seattle and Maui and the AIDS foundations in Maui and the Suicide Crisis Center in Seattle...these folks are making a real difference, unlike the self-serving JWs!
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  No, Minnesota isn't so white, that even the black people have blonde hair..

  by ColdRedRain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just dyed my hair blonde last week and i finally got pictures!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/file/187c1b9f-cd80-4753-b1b5-f077428fb130.ashx.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/file/8aeabbf7-2c53-4da8-9b7e-6c1191cef8f6.ashx.

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  So are you having more fun (blondes have more fun...)?
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  Finish this Sentence- JW's are good liars because.......

  by doodle-v in

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  2. friends

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  because they are brainwashed into thinking that "distorting the truth" is ok in circumstance involved in defending their faith-theocratic warfare.

  they constantly lie to themselves about what kind of person they really are and deny themselves life's pleasures-hence the "double life syndrome" lie to friends at school, lie to elders, lie to people in the cong.

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  Sabine

  Cautious as serpents and innocent as doves....HELLO PEOPLE... A CAUTIOUS SERPENT? More like slithering liars!
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  Watchtower Convention= Kitchener ON Canada- PLEASE GET INVOLVED

  by apocalypse in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the 2004 convention season is under way, and we are going to the "walk with god" district convention at the kitchener memorial auditorium june 18-20,2004. now, we had a letter read out that said:.

  1) do not contact the auditorium.

  http://www.city.kitchener.on.ca/aud/contact_us.htm.

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  Sabine

  It all stinks - reminds me of the Tacoma Dome parking ticket scandal that was exposed.

  Well said and done!
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  Special Thanks to Sabine!!!

  by codeblue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sabine:.

  i wanted to dedicate this thread to you.

  you are a very special person that took some time out of your busy schedule this week to really "encourage me"...it was just what i needed to help me thru a very painful period in my life.. also, thanks for being my "personal trainer"...working out seems less intimidating to me!!!

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  Oh my, thank you so much codeblue...I had a great time with you too, it was mutual encouragement! I sure wish we lived closer together. I am looking forward to seeing everyone camping this summer, the year has just flown by.

  Jst2laws - things have gotten a lot better for me, I've made peace with some issues that flaired up for me in winter. Thanks for your prompt reply, BTW, when I reached out to you...it does help to know there are loving folks to reach out to when you feel overwhelmed by your feelings after exiting the JW cult! Say Hi to your other half for us!!

  Onacruse and Bikerchick - we sure enjoyed visiting with you, and the great tour of downtown Portland!
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  The Truth About Marijuana

  by Obviously Secret in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hemp was always used as a good source to make cloths, ropes, sails, and various other .

  products that used the abnormally strong fibers from hemp plants.

  make it legal take it out of criminals hands .

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  Sabine

  

  Have you seen the documentary GRASS narrated by Woody Harrelson?

  sabine420