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  Persecution in Russia. Poland next.

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wife got back from the meeting last night and told me they watched some video from jw.org about persection in russia.

  lots of discussion at the hall about poland being next after ukraine.

  she told me she was not going to sign anything renouncing her faith even if she had to go to prison.

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  @NT: I don't think this was a case of the WTBATS predicting the future. It was just local friends extrapolating as to their response in a similar situation.

  @Others: regarding Russia invading anyone, I don't think it will happen. Why bother? They just have to sit back and watch the west implode. It could get interesting if for some reason the gas flowing west gets cut off this winter. I have plenty of firewood stacked, so not an issue of freezing to death for me.

  I was going with the idea expressed by LisaRose - using the incident for manipulation of rank and file.
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  Persecution in Russia. Poland next.

  by FadeToBlack in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wife got back from the meeting last night and told me they watched some video from jw.org about persection in russia.

  lots of discussion at the hall about poland being next after ukraine.

  she told me she was not going to sign anything renouncing her faith even if she had to go to prison.

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  FadeToBlack

  The wife got back from the meeting last night and told me they watched some video from jw.org about persection in Russia. Lots of discussion at the hall about Poland being next after Ukraine. She told me she was not going to sign anything renouncing her faith even if she had to go to prison. I told her I would have no problem signing it if asked. I wasn't interested in going to prison and somebody needs to take care of the dogs. She wasn't amused.

  I also tried to tell her that perhaps she wasn't getting a little bit worked up about this and she probably had nothing to worry about for the forseeable future. But she would have none of it. They apparently like to play up the drama of being a persecuted people = proof that they have the truth.
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  how to survive a three day assembly?

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi i have to go to one of these soon.

  i find it difficult enough to sit through a meeting knowing what i now know.

  how to survive a whole three days???!!!

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  I'm with bigmac. We all need to start pushing the boundaries. I realize in the US you have already made travel arrangements, so you will just have to find a way to cope this year. My next boundary is the prayer thing. I don't feel comfortable saying 'grace' before meals. It is getting awkward.
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  YOUNG EARTH?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  young earth creationists (like dr. john morris) are taken to task in an article producing the following statistics:.

  let's begin with today's population of the earth (estimated) 6,623,924,220. call it 6 billion.. now, let's go back to noah and his family after the flood.

  but--let's take the baby steps necessary to get from 8 people to our goal of 6 billion.. why?

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  FadeToBlack

  Thank you Viviane.
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  The GB gives awakened JW's 2 choices.

  by BU2B in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is classic damned if you do, damned if you dont.. the choice is.

  1. be a hypocrite.

  i just came to the realization that those of us still in and who know ttatt have only 2choices.

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  I feel for you BU2B, but you have to ask yourself if you are willing to do this for the rest of your life. So far, my wife tolerates my fade - she probably has some hope that I will come back to my senses and get back in the saddle. Not going to happen. I allow her to have her friends over and occasionally I will go with her to some get-together (BBQ) as long as I know there will be no indoctrination sessions (WT study). I listen to their little preaching victory conversations (convinced local priest they are not a cult) and bite my tongue. I think they just view me as weak.
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  Noticed my old KH is using a lawn care service

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was still attending i almost single handedly took care of the outside grounds.

  i actually enjoyed it - gardening being a hobby.

  but i turned in the keys to the shed about three months before i made my official exit.. .

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  FadeToBlack

  Perhaps the elder body decided it would allow the 'friends' to spend more time in service. Or perhaps one of the elders owns a lawn service business.
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  Commenting At The Meetings---Did You Enjoy It?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was that important for you?

  most people, i believe, forced themselves to give an answer.

  i knew many elders and servants over the years being counseled because they rarely answered.. funny thing....my mom who is 88 cries if she doesn't give a comment.

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  I've seen so many brothers (mostly) get shutdown for making honest, direct experience comments. In other words, they just didn't parrot what was read in the paragraph.
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  National newspaper interview with JW's using the JW.org trolley

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a dutch national newspaper (trouw) published an interview with some jw's using the jw.org trolley near the trainstation of utrecht.. the local coordinator of the trolley work acknowledged that many witness are not enthusiastic about preaching.

  it's a wide spread rumor in our organization.. but the witness elders will remind them personally that preaching is nessasery.

  then there is an question asked about the witness selection procedure for the trolley work.. the good looking pioneer sister answered she can imagine the need for selection because nobody would take a book from an old age leaning forward woman without teeth.. g..

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  @whatHappened: yes, now you don't have to go D2D. If you qualify, you can just stand behind a trolley directing 'interested ones' to jw.org.
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  How to Wear a Pinkie Ring, by Stephen Lett, Governing Body Member

  by Oubliette in

  1. social
  2. humour

  always the fashionista amongst the governing body members, mr. stephen lett recently showed us how even an older man can display a certain swagger, a certain je nesais quoi that says, "i'm one of the anointed, and you're not!".

  he does this in so many ways, but the one i want to draw our attention to is the way he rocked the theocratic fashion world with his wearing of a very manly pinkie ring in a recent wtbts video.. - -.

  stephen lett of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses demonstrating how to wear a pinkie ring.

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  FadeToBlack

  If it really is a Fm ring, that puts it in an entirely different discussion category. But, even if it isn't, it is still 'yucky' IMHO. Is it just me, or does this guy seem like a twit?
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  The elders are 'letting me fade'

  by TableForOne in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i attended my last meeting in january 2014, having realised that i'd been lied to for 20+ years (i'm now 43 y/o).

  rumours spread of my 'apostasy'.. in may, cobe contacted me inviting me to a private meeting with elders at the kh.

  (no mention of the meeting being a jc).

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  Brilliant... And nice 'additional material' Blondie!