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  Elephants and JWs never forget

  by Joziqueen in

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  my mother in law lost her husband to cancer recently.

  so feeling lonely and been pushed by her sister (active witness) after not stepping in a hall for 20 years she went to a sunday meeting.

  one meeting where she had the surreal experience of having to watch a "special talk" on jw tv.

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  They endlessly talk about love and forgiveness but instead they have turned holding a grudge into an art form and call it following bible principles. My condolences on you family's loss.
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  Please vaccinate your children

  by Viviane in

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  and remember your boosters as adults!.

  currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

  vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

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  I think the deafness and blindness charity Sense in the UK said the main cause of children being born deaf and blind is mothers catching rubella in pregnancy. A very sad result from not vaccinating children.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

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  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  It's great news. Thanks for this thread Clarity. If you click on Users at the top of the page I counted up nine new people have joined in the last day.
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  oh i love this, girls,

  by sowhatnow in

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  1st timothy 2 vs 14 .

  14 and adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

  oh, ok, so adam wasn't deceived by the woman, lol so hes so innocent?

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  What does it mean that women will be "saved" through childbearing (1 Timothy 2:15)?

  'The most likely interpretation that takes into account the immediate context is that, rather than abandoning their intended roles by demanding teaching and authoritative positions in the church, women will find true fulfillment through childbearing. Paul is saying God calls women to be faithful, helpful wives, raising children to love and worship God and managing the household wisely (1 Timothy 5:14;Titus 2:3–5). While this view is not without its difficulties, it appears to harmonize best with the context and with the remainder of Scripture.'
  
  http://www.gotquestions.org/saved-childbearing.html

  
  

  
  

  This is the traditional Christian view of this scripture which the JWs adopted. Not difficult to understand at all. Women should be at home looking after their husband, having babies and keeping their mouths shut. Paul's infamous misogyny.
  
  
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  oh i love this, girls,

  by sowhatnow in

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  1st timothy 2 vs 14 .

  14 and adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

  oh, ok, so adam wasn't deceived by the woman, lol so hes so innocent?

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  Oh yeah that's how the GB want women, barefoot and pregnant and keeping their mouths shut 'I do not permit a woman to teach'!

  Somehow we are responsible for everything that is wrong in the world because Eve was deceived. So Adam was not deceived and wilfully disobeyed but still men can be the head of the house?  It must be because I am so emotional and illogical that I can't understand this.
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  Stephen Fry on God: What would you say to him if he did exist?

  by Simon in

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  great answer to a stupid question - what would you say if you're wrong, if god does exist and you go to meet him when you die?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwnysqo.

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  Excellent answer. There are so many disgusting diseases on this planet from river blindness to leprosy, how can anyone be in charge? I do love the way Stephen engages with the question and says he wouldn't want to know a god who professes to be loving and yet creates such misery. Adam and Eve and fans being switched off and slowly winding down a la JW teaching just don't cut it.
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

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  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  Welcome James. My husband and I pioneered for 25 years between us. We left together when I was thirty thank goodness. Is your wife of the same mind as you on the JWs?
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  Don't you just love a great quote?

  by stillin in

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  i have seen a few here on this forum.

  i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".

  charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).

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  IS it so small a thing
  To have enjoy'd the sun,
  To have lived light in the spring,
  To have loved, to have thought, to have done;
  To have advanced true friends, and beat down baffling foes; Matthew Arnold I love the whole poem but this stanza especially. Living a human life is a triumph, whatever we do with it.........
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  sooner's new job

  by BigMike in

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  Xanthippe

  BigMike very well done! Years of work have lead to a very worthwhile profession. Enjoy your success, you've earned it.
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  The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  have you all read this weeks study article?.

  oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.

  (notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!

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  More beating them over the head with the idea they must stay in an organisation to be safe. The inner rooms connected to the KHs will protect them when the big A comes. Such a primitive ides. People have been rushing into churches and temples as the buildings fall on them or the lava pours down for thousands of years. A deeply entrenched fear in the human psyche exploited by this cult.

  All to keep reeling in the individuals who are exhausted with the constant doctrinal changes and want to find their God away from an organisation that keeps verbally beating them to do more. Only a building can save them?? Whatever happened to a relationship with God!