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  "Religion gives us the Why"

  by Phizzy in

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  i have heard this nonsense said by many believers, especially when science conflicts with their belief, they say:.

  " well, science may tell us how we got here, religion tells us why we are here".

  does religion tell us that ?

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  Xanthippe

  I like making up my own purpose. It changes over the years. At differerent times I have been obsessed with leaving home, finding a partner, having a child, getting a degree, finding the job I really wanted to do. At the moment I want to get the damn garden straight and looking beautiful. I would also like to visit as many countries as I can before I am too old.

  Some people are obsessed with collecting stamps, playing the bagpipes or breeding chihuahuas. Each to their own.

  There's no need to feel lost without religion telling us why we are here. I would hate someone to tell me what the purpose of my life should be now. The thought of some religious leader telling me why I'm here and what I have to do for my life to have purpose horrifies me.
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  Something JWs don't understand how to do

  by enigma1863 in

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  i had to share this quote.

  it reminds me of trying to reason with jws.

  you can only go so far before they shut down.. .

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  Absolutely, at the very least you can better understand the person who has introduced the idea to you. Perhaps you might begin to have a whole new perspective on life if you entertain a thought you might previously have dismissed out of hand. Where would philosophy and theoretical physics be without the thought experiment.

  http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-most-famous-thought-experiments.php
  
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  HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. beliefs

  we're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".

  in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".

  so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?

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  Xanthippe

  Always wondered about this but we were not supposed to ask. It seemed to me like spiritualism, God talking to them, giving them messages. Anyway as we all now know they just make it up as they go along and people live or die because of it. What a power trip!
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  Elephants and JWs never forget

  by Joziqueen in

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  2. beliefs

  my mother in law lost her husband to cancer recently.

  so feeling lonely and been pushed by her sister (active witness) after not stepping in a hall for 20 years she went to a sunday meeting.

  one meeting where she had the surreal experience of having to watch a "special talk" on jw tv.

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  Xanthippe

  They endlessly talk about love and forgiveness but instead they have turned holding a grudge into an art form and call it following bible principles. My condolences on you family's loss.
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  Please vaccinate your children

  by Viviane in

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  and remember your boosters as adults!.

  currently there is a measles outbreak in the u.s. the outbreak is clustered into communities where parents choose not to get their children vaccinated.

  vaccination works primarily on herd immunity.

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  I think the deafness and blindness charity Sense in the UK said the main cause of children being born deaf and blind is mothers catching rubella in pregnancy. A very sad result from not vaccinating children.
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  NEWBIES are leaving like crazy! Be very afraid WT

  by clarity in

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  2. friends

  # 3 newbie post.

  first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.

  have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!

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  Xanthippe

  It's great news. Thanks for this thread Clarity. If you click on Users at the top of the page I counted up nine new people have joined in the last day.
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  oh i love this, girls,

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. bible

  1st timothy 2 vs 14 .

  14 and adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

  oh, ok, so adam wasn't deceived by the woman, lol so hes so innocent?

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  What does it mean that women will be "saved" through childbearing (1 Timothy 2:15)?

  'The most likely interpretation that takes into account the immediate context is that, rather than abandoning their intended roles by demanding teaching and authoritative positions in the church, women will find true fulfillment through childbearing. Paul is saying God calls women to be faithful, helpful wives, raising children to love and worship God and managing the household wisely (1 Timothy 5:14;Titus 2:3–5). While this view is not without its difficulties, it appears to harmonize best with the context and with the remainder of Scripture.'
  
  http://www.gotquestions.org/saved-childbearing.html

  
  

  
  

  This is the traditional Christian view of this scripture which the JWs adopted. Not difficult to understand at all. Women should be at home looking after their husband, having babies and keeping their mouths shut. Paul's infamous misogyny.
  
  
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  oh i love this, girls,

  by sowhatnow in

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  1st timothy 2 vs 14 .

  14 and adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

  oh, ok, so adam wasn't deceived by the woman, lol so hes so innocent?

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  Xanthippe

  Oh yeah that's how the GB want women, barefoot and pregnant and keeping their mouths shut 'I do not permit a woman to teach'!

  Somehow we are responsible for everything that is wrong in the world because Eve was deceived. So Adam was not deceived and wilfully disobeyed but still men can be the head of the house?  It must be because I am so emotional and illogical that I can't understand this.
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  Stephen Fry on God: What would you say to him if he did exist?

  by Simon in

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  2. beliefs

  great answer to a stupid question - what would you say if you're wrong, if god does exist and you go to meet him when you die?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwnysqo.

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  Excellent answer. There are so many disgusting diseases on this planet from river blindness to leprosy, how can anyone be in charge? I do love the way Stephen engages with the question and says he wouldn't want to know a god who professes to be loving and yet creates such misery. Adam and Eve and fans being switched off and slowly winding down a la JW teaching just don't cut it.
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  Xanthippe

  Welcome James. My husband and I pioneered for 25 years between us. We left together when I was thirty thank goodness. Is your wife of the same mind as you on the JWs?