If the Royal Commision's recommendations to government result in all religious organisations in Australia having to follow mandatory reporting of every incidence of child abuse they become aware of it could be very interesting. Will Australia have a separate elders manual and branch manual? How will this affect how the GB instruct the rest of the congregations internationally?
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GEOFFREY JACKSON THE PERSONABLE FACE OF JW.ORG...BUT IT AIN'T OVER YET BUDDY
by steve2 insince geoffrey jackson's appearance before the australian royal commission on friday there has for some been an expressed feeling of anticlimax.
it is as though he was given too much latitude to preach, to claim ignorance and to skirt questions.
more to the point, as much as i myself thought i would never have expected to say this, gj actually came across as likeable and - don't throttle me please!
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Mr Jackson said we would notice if the GB said things outwith the scriptures????
by notsurewheretogo inin the rc yesterday mr jackson said that if wrong direction was given by the gb, the rank and file would notice it.
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i see plenty of things that the gb say that is not in scriptures but if i say the gb are wrong i'm df....
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Xanthippe
I thought exactly the same thing. What difference does it make if people can tell if the GB are saying things that are unscriptural, they have to keep their mouths shut on pain of exile from all the people they know and love.
The indefensible thing about this is that Jackson implied under oath that JWs would all be able to object to any unscriptural directions the GB give!
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The recent Royal Commission hearings have stirred up my emotions ....
by troubled mind ini hope the royal commission will be able to force the jw organization to take a serious look at itself ,and will cause some much needed changes.. i have been following the trial faithfully ,and unfortunately it has dredged up some deep pains from years ago .
you think some of that old baggage is neatly packed away never meant to see the light of day again .....but then boom there it is again .. hearing what bcg had to go through, and how she felt trying to get help from the elders was heart-wrenching.
i remember the terrible way young women were treated in the 1970's .
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Troubled mind, thank you for telling your story and for being an example to many of us who are still trying to find that glorious freedom of totally accepting ourselves. We will go forward together and our victory will be that we need no one to tell us our worth. -
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Hello!
by BeautifulMind ini've been enjoying all of the discussions here for a good while now.
i found this site as i was researching things about this religion i've been in (finally after nagging curiosity and questions) but i wanted to figure things out more before coming on here and posting.
i'm glad to see that im not alone or crazy!
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Welcome BeautifulMind. So glad your kids will be free of thîs cult. Well done! -
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This too Shall Pass (RC Commission vs WTS)
by undercover inwhile i'm glad that the practices of the wts are under review and the australian commission is taking them to task, i'm not really expecting huge changes in the long run.
oh, they may have to agree to some changes in how they report crimes brought to elders' attention, but this excitement over the supposed expose of wt practices shall pass, and jws will soon be canvassing neighborhoods and rolling their carts, looking for converts.
conventions will go on.
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Social change is always very slow. It is only when we look back that we can see the defining moments in history. The ARC will probably be listed as one of the things that worked towards establishing the rights of children after the world fought for racial equality, women's rights, gay rights and animal rights in the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. -
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Has the Royal Commission website removed Geoffery Jackson from schedule?
by Indian Larry inearlier this morning the royal commission website stated:.
"the royal commissions public hearing into the jehovahs witnesses will recommence in sydney on friday 14 august 2015 at 11:00am.. it is anticipated that the hearing will hear from one witness, mr geoffrey jackson, a member of the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.
"now that has been changed.
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Still says he is anticipated to be heard. If you go to :-www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au and on the home page it gives latest news. Click on JWs and it still says he will be the only witness to appear on Friday 14 August. -
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Leaving the org and marriage possibly ending
by atacrossroads ini was raised a witness, baptized at 16, vacation pioneered, got married, etc.
i was very much your typical witness and believed it was the truth until last summer.
a very close relative of mine left the witnesses.
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Atacrossroads and Tornintwo I think you are both incredibly brave women. I don't have any advice because I had such a different experience but I just wanted to wish you well on your journeys. -
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Thankful for jehovahs-witness.com
by jw07 ini'm still 'in' and this website is the only thing that's been keeping me sane for a long while.. knowing that i'm not alone, the success stories, and the constant update of breaking news that provides hope such as the exposure of the organisation at the hands of the royal commission makes me happy while i'm stuck in this dark hole.
that's so especially today when i'm dealing with a sht storm of personal issues and the pretending that everything is fine is just rubbing pepper into my wounds.
i'm thankful for this website and all you beautiful people.
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Just for the record Vincent Toole and Terrence Obrien you are both lying SOBs
by joe134cd ini just thought i would mention this on the off chance they might be lurking here.
the two quotes are.
(1)vincent toole ="i've never heard of the term 'theocratic warfare'".
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I thought this thread from two years ago was interesting. This poster claims that Vincent Toole was a circuit overseer that the WTS in Australia sent to law school, paid for it, then appointed him as head of the legal department.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/65241/more-decption-feb-1-wt?page=1
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Mandatory reporting and misprision
by Xanthippe inday 7 of the australian royal commission has chair justice peter mcclellan raising the point that i have been wondering about all along, which is, how can these elders not report child abuse to the authorities especially when a full confession has taken place?.
justice mcclellan asked toole, the wts's lawyer, if he is aware that there is a difference between an organisation being required to have mandatory reporting of child abuse to the authorities and misprision which is the concealment of a felony, itself a criminal offence?
toole says he is aware of it now but he wasn't before!
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I've been noticing on the forum the last couple of days that poster's quotes from Australian newspapers are really highlighting the misprision of the Australian branch and congregations, deliberately concealing crimes against children.
Australian journalists have really picked up on this that in some states and New South Wales in particular where the Branch is, all individuals have an obligation to report child abuse or risk being guilty of a criminal offence themselves.
It's about time this gross disrespect both for law and for children' safety was brought into the glare of public and official scrutiny.