I'm glad you've found someone to talk to who really gets it. I have sympathetic friends but you get fed up explaining every little detail of the cult first when you want to talk about your family etc.
Xanthippe
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Finally found a friend I can talk to
by StarTrekAngel inhe is an old friend that used to attend my congo.
he moved away closer to his parents at some point and we lost touch.
for a couple of years i did not hear anything from him.
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I have no prblems with "new light"
by Doug Mason inthere is nothing wrong with accepting new ideas.
even apostle paul changed his mind when he "saw the light".
indeed, i hope to learn new things every day.
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All of that could be a cause for ridicule, but there is a seriously sinister side, at the human level. Each time a new light is switched on, the organization demands lock-step acceptance. All minds have to switch over, whether a person agrees or not
It's the human cost of these decisions from the high and mighty GB. How does the woman I knew in my old congregation cope with the loss of her seventeen year old son in a car accident who could have lived if he'd had a blood transfusion? New light about blood fractions doesn't help her.
How does my sister cope with the thought that she could have had IVF and possibly have grown-up children now, even grandchildren. Instead she has an empty house because IVF was forbidden as the discarded embryos were considered to be 'murdered'. New light saying it's a conscience matter now doesn't help her and I can tell you she has not coped.
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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Got the personal invite to the D.C
by Phizzy ina nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
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anyone else had this following convention
by freeandcontent inso my mam visited today.
she recently went to convention in north east england, newcastle i think they still have them at.
before she left she said (this is her exact words btw) "you have put me in a difficult position and i can't come to see you anymore".. she told me that as i live with my partner and we are unmarried that she can't visit anymore.
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That's exactly word for word what my mum said to me and she missed out on seeing her granddaughter grow up. My daughter didn't mind because she had my husband's parents making a fuss of her and they enjoyed having her all to themselves. Are your partner's parents around? I know this doesn't make up for you losing your own mum does it? Sorry this is so hard for you, it's not fair and it's not Christian, damned cult!
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What is happening to the pictures?
by Xanthippe inhi simon, i notice some of mine and kaik's photographs of our gardens from bonsai's 'start a butterfly garden' thread are missing and being replaced with little squares with question marks in.
they're not pictures taken from the web but our own photos so i'm not sure what's happened there.
they've been there a while and used to be fine.. also i like to look back on flipper's 'post a picture thread' to see if i've missed anyone and it's starting to happen there too and some of the pictures have been turned upside down, p94, p95, p103.
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What is happening to the pictures?
by Xanthippe inhi simon, i notice some of mine and kaik's photographs of our gardens from bonsai's 'start a butterfly garden' thread are missing and being replaced with little squares with question marks in.
they're not pictures taken from the web but our own photos so i'm not sure what's happened there.
they've been there a while and used to be fine.. also i like to look back on flipper's 'post a picture thread' to see if i've missed anyone and it's starting to happen there too and some of the pictures have been turned upside down, p94, p95, p103.
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Hi Simon, I notice some of mine and Kaik's photographs of our gardens from Bonsai's 'start a butterfly garden' thread are missing and being replaced with little squares with question marks in. They're not pictures taken from the web but our own photos so I'm not sure what's happened there. They've been there a while and used to be fine.
Also I like to look back on Flipper's 'post a picture thread' to see if I've missed anyone and it's starting to happen there too and some of the pictures have been turned upside down, p94, p95, p103. These are both threads that are still in use and keep being added to. Do you you know what's happening please?
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This guy is more spiritual than I could ever be!
by Nathan Natas in...and you know how spiritual i am!.
right?.
https://youtu.be/0btlqh8ndq8?t=231.
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Turn out the lights the party is over
by Crazyguy ini think the reason the borg really went on a cost cutting move and is selling off all thier buildings has become obvious.
the cult is telling people that there fast growing but then the numbers seem to indicate about a 1% growth rate.
this would give them roughly 800,000 new baptized ones in ten years give or take do to the small increase per year from previous gains.
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those in developing lands eat it up....
I'm not so sure anymore. Anglican and Catholic missionaries used to make rice Christians, build schools and hospitals, but JWs are offering nothing but empty promises. Poor people in developing countries aren't that stupid now, they need to feed and educate their kids. Plus secular organisations are offering them more in practical aid now.
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Just a little anecdote illustrating how out of touch the typical JW is
by sir82 inthis weeks book study lesson was on martha, the sister of lazarus.
the chapter in the "imitate their faith" book praised her for being "industrious".. the conductor at our congregation meeting was just positively gushing about how "industrious" modern-day jw women are.. he was so exciting, he could barely get the words out.
following is not an exact quote, but conveys the gist:.
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I was a young pioneer in my twenties when I was invited to the AGM when it came to the UK. The UK congs. were shitting themselves over the GB and Brooklyn bethel people attending. Of course I didn't hear any of it because I was serving drinks and food all day.
After we had served lunch and were desperate for a sit down we were taken to a room and asked to cut up all these cakes other women had baked and put them on trays. Then they decided to put the plates of cake in one half of each tray and put cups on the other half so we changed them all round. I thought great now are we going to get to sit down and have a drink and eat some of this cake. No, the men in charge of us decided they liked it how it was to start with and told us to change it all back again.
Why do I remember this all these years later? Because I was absolutely bloody furious! How can these idiots who don't know their ass from their elbow keep treating women like this I thought. What shocked me was the other women just did as they were told and nobody complained. They were so submissive but I wanted to punch those men!
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