When they demand that you are submissive to all men, do not give an opinion on anything and are treated like a second class citizen it is very oppressive.
Xanthippe
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Org Is RACIST! Towards Sisters Of COLOR In Particular--IMO!
by HiddlesWife ini'm sorry--i'm getting this very sensitive vibe that the org (mainly those at the top) don't have any respect--forget about love--for sisters of color.
i'm coming to this conclusion from a couple of videos on jw broadcasting about single sisters.. after watching this video: .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjrbkggp4g.
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Weird Exodus the Musical
by darkspilver inno idea, totally no idea, just weird, really weird.... though it's amazing how well gilbert and sullivan stands up to this - indestructible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yntrg6p5wri.
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Xanthippe
Oh no Pirates of Penzance meets Moses!! Well I guess it's a Victorian religion!
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Latest from Australian Royal Commission
by gerry injust received this update.
http://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=8e90fa1e64ebb08847cc04916&id=fcec86ae2b&e=0670c7af59.
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Xanthippe
Thanks very much for this.
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My Story
by SamTheGinge inso, i joined just yesterday after coming across this forum looking at beth sarim, and i though that i would share my story with you.
it will no doubt be very similar to a lot of others, but it's a way of getting to know me at least.. i was brought up as witness from the age of 4 years old, my dad picked up the 'truth' from one of his friends in the pub and it seemed to go from there, he would quickly get baptised and progress to becoming a ministerial servant and then an elder.
from a young age i wanted to be like my dad and become a pioneer, a ministerial servant and then an elder... perhaps even becoming a co. the world, spiritually speaking, was my oyster.
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Xanthippe
Welcome! I'm glad you've got your own family now and have found real happiness and freedom. Will you have a Wiccan wedding, will you have to be sky clad? Best wait til summer 😀
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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?
by snugglebunny inhaving seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
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Xanthippe
If women are treated badly why don't they just leave? Because they become depressed and develop poor self esteem in that religion so they doubt their own doubts. They doubt their ability to decide what is true and false, that's why.
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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?
by snugglebunny inhaving seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
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Xanthippe
Women in the religion who are strong and have their own opinions are treated as if they are immoral in my own experience. What opportunity does it allow for research or independent thought if they look at you as if you're a prostitute every time you offer an opinion?
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So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?
by stuckinarut2 inthe society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.
not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!
so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.
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Xanthippe
Apparently the one who created the universe, billions of galaxies, the earth and the human ear cannot get his message across to the GB. If his son really could walk on water and raise the dead surely he could get his spokesmen on earth to get the message right first time.
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Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot
by Simon inwhy were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
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Xanthippe
I wonder though about the people who unlike my family had a good education. Doctors, teachers, architects who I've known personally. Intellectually they were not idiots but they became JWs.
I suspect it was the same as everyone else who joined, either a traumatic event or a chronic situation in their lives that made them psychologically vulnerable to love bombing.
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So I just watched Jackson's ARC interview...
by schnell inthank you, everybody here, for introducing me to this.
no, no i had not heard of this.
child abuse issues have been roundly dismissed as apostate attacks in the congregations i've attended in the last decade.
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Xanthippe
' If they don't want to apply to officially leave the JWs they can tell anyone they like they are no longer a JW ' - G Jackson
Yes Schnell he's implying members could do this without sanction which we know is rubbish. Going around telling JW friends and family you no longer want to be a JW and why is apostasy and will get you disfellowshipped.
You're right he unbelievably says it's not his field but as Stewart says everything is his field because he's one of the GB. The ultimate spiritual shepherds of the JW religion cannot answer a straight question to save their life. Shocking. Good to see this again thanks. Glad you can see it's not the truth and welcome to the forum.
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Do you feel regret?
by HereIgo into help me move on after leaving the org and to maintain my sanity, i have worked on not regretting the time i spent in it.
granted, i have only been out 6 years and was 22 when i left, i still was an active jw from age 16-22. those were prime times of my youth that i will never get back.
i wanted to play high school football and basketball but couldn't.
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Xanthippe
Of course I wish I'd got out sooner, I was thirty when I left but I'm not weighed down with regret. I came from a financially poor, uneducated family which is why my mother got sucked into the cult. I can't see that my childhood could have been much different because of my parents circumstances. My parents didn't even understand about further education and my mother had depression so she just wanted paradise to make all the nasty scary world go away.
I try to look at the big picture because there's so much poverty in the world that people struggle so hard to get out of and many never do. My husband and I left and got degrees and did get out of the poverty trap but I'm not rich I just value everything I have now. Freedom, a little home, books and a daughter who did go to university and has the freedom to do whatever she wants with her life.
When I looked round universities with her I do remember a sharp pang in my stomach when I thought I could have had this life, but then she had me for a mother and I had my JW mother. Hey ho. Life is what it is and for us in the west, the first world it's damn good, make the most of it!