Venus if a JW's only offering in a marriage talk about solving arguments for married couples is buy another TV, I'm sorry but that's the most pathetic piece of advice I've ever heard.
Xanthippe
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Is there anything good JWs taught you still benefit from?
by venus insome years ago, i attended a jw wedding.
marriage speaker said something which changed my life for the better, and it helps me even now.
he told the couple: “the very make up of man and woman is such that conflicts can often arise between you.
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Grocery Store conversation with an elder
by problemaddict 2 ini'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.
i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.
i still run into to people all over though.
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Xanthippe
If you check through my subsequent comment in this thread, once problemaddict2 clarified that his son was not present when he had the exchange with the elder, I thanked him for the clarification - only I misidentified him as Xanthippe (my error - I had intended to thank problemaddict2 for the clarification).
You're a strange one Steve2. You didn't misidentify problemaddict as me, it was me who defended him and explained his son wasn't present. I understood that from his op. Whatever do you mean?
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Just woke up turn TV on to hear yet another nut case with a gun.
by Still Totally ADD infirst they said 20 dead with 100 injured.
now i just heard 50 dead and 200 injured.
whatever it is it just another nut case who was able to get a high power gun to kill people.
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Xanthippe
problems are the medications prescribed that make people violent towards others when on the meds or if they miss a few doses/withdrawal. Look up violence and effexor for an example.
Blaming people with mental health problems for the violence in the world is too easy and insulting.
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Does Morality Exist?
by Fisherman insome people believe that stealing, lying and killing, is not moral.
some people don't.. does morality exist?
if so, prove it..
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Xanthippe
I think you're talking about an ultimate standard of morality, like absolute goodness as opposed to total evil. As if such a standard was founded in the universe somewhere before we even existed. That's from your religious beliefs I think.
Morality is about not causing harm to conscious beings but over time we've had to continually change what that means as we've grown in our understanding. There isn't an absolute standard of morality, only what works. What works for us probably wouldn't work for life on another planet with totally different needs.
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Help with acceptance for JW family still in
by MaryKN inwell, it's been a long time!
i first lurked here around 20 years ago and read huge amounts of threads which certainly helped when i was making my decision to leave the religion.
i was never baptised (resisted it!
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Xanthippe
That things will be always be like this with their family, that they will always be JW, that they will never change, that they will never have doubts or at least doubts that they will act on until the day they die? If so, how? Does it still make you very sad? Do you think you'll always be sad about it? Are you still angry? How do you deal with it?
Slightly different to you in that my family don't have anything to do with me so I don't have the frustration of getting preached at. Yes it makes me sad that they will probably die in that religion.
Occasionally I remember something from when we were kids and I feel sad but then I think they're not those people anymore, your life choices change you. My sister saving a bird that had been hurt and being so sad when it died. Where is that little girl? Subsumed by the cult monster religion.
I deal with it by just enjoying my life. I'm here if they want to leave. You can't stay sad or angry the whole time, it's a waste if life.
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Grocery Store conversation with an elder
by problemaddict 2 ini'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.
i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.
i still run into to people all over though.
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Xanthippe
He was running to get potatoes Steve2
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Grocery Store conversation with an elder
by problemaddict 2 ini'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.
i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.
i still run into to people all over though.
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Xanthippe
So funny, wish I'd been there to see his face
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Why should WE be the bloodguilty ones??
by stuckinarut2 init struck me just how odd and weird it is that jws are told that if they do not preach, they are "bloodguilty" for failing to warn people of the upcoming destruction at armageddon.. hang on a minute now, hang on!.
why should a mere human be made to feel "bloodguilty" and "responsible" for "failing to warn someone" of gods wrath??.
these average people are not the ones who are about to unleash a genocidal massacre on 99% of humanity (including babies born to non-witnesses).
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Xanthippe
I agree with everyone who says it's just another Borg guilt trip because logically you cannot preach to everyone.
You cannot reach everyone, people are going to be missed and whenever you stop the preaching work ready for big J to bring the slaughter, innocent children of unbelievers are going to die.
It makes no logical sense for those who can't read people's minds and see exactly what they're doing with their lives the way that big J apparently can, to be held responsible for them.
To think that we fell for this ridiculous guilt trip I can only think it's because our minds were already pulverised with guilt about our normal sexual feelings, our desire for material things and our desire to be that most terrible of things - happy.
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Need help understanding the Overlapping Generation teaching
by Jules Saturn inso this is a topic that seriously boggles my mind and please correct me if i'm wrong.
to me, the jw definition of the overlapping generation teaching is that the lives of the anointed from 1914 overlap with the lives of the anointed right now.
david splane used the example of fred franz and how he finished his "earthly course" in 1992 but while he did, he had a lot of "contemporaries" that outlived him and are currently living today.
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Xanthippe
I can't even read Oubliette's explanation of overlapping generations without feeling ill. I don't get this way trying to understand science, even if I don't completely follow every word. Beginning to understand why that religion's teachings make intelligent people depressed.
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Watchtower Study Today from August 2017 issue " Wait Patiently"
by BluesBrother intheme scripture , james 5 v 8 abbreviated to " you too, exercise patience".
(i guess we know what to expect now) .
" how long?
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Xanthippe
The technique here is to impart the view that to complain against the WTS is,in fact, complaining against God !.....
Their technique is always to distract attention from their failed prophecies. One my brother used is, we're not serving Jehovah to any date we're serving him forever. That's not the point, the only valid point is, they were wrong. They don't represent God. That's it.