many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.
examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.
nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".
the title was total clickbait
I am by no means a Jehovah's Witness or a part of their cult
So you are here because........?
Many of us here have read more Bible translations, books discussing the Bible, religious history and religious comment than you will ever look at. Thanks but no thanks.
my (very fake) name is gabriel syme or gabe for short.
i have been lurking in the shadows for many years and i want to give all here a heartfelt thank you for all your indirect support.
this website, as well as youtube, and eventually reddit, were all key in me finally accepting the “truth” being not that at all.
Welcome GTS, I'm glad you finally escaped that cult. Looking forward to your contributions. Glad we could help.
as non of you scrooges seem to want to wish anyone else merry christmas , l thought that l would drop in and wish you all .
merry christmas , happy holidays , feliz navidad , joyeux noel , and throw another shrimp on the barbie sheila .
why did the turkey want to join the band , because he had the drumsticks , boom boom .
What do you get if you eat Christmas decorations?
Tinselitis
Happy Christmas everyone.
🎄🎉🎈
i was just thinking at how quickly the process was from pimi - pimo - pomo.
i must of spent about 10 years trudging along in the organization very unhappily.
but from the initial stages of learning ttatt to physically walking out the door the process took about 18 months.
We moved congregations at the beginning of '88 and some time in the summer of that year we realised that the rot was right through the organization and not just a local thing. Partly it was seeing what another body of elders was like and partly finding CoC in the library. We Da'ed in February the following year. We'd never even heard the term fading, there was no internet.
I'm not saying it's right for everyone but it was right for us, we were suffering badly in that religion. We couldn't have taken much more. It sounds dramatic I know but we barely escaped with our sanity. Now, although in the past I've had some doubts about the way we left because I lost my entire family, I know we did the right thing, for us. We never looked back, just moved forwards and although it was very hard work it was worth it.
i googled it and pretty much my understanding is the same as what i imagine.
no one really knows, your guess is as good as the next.
interesting thought to consider imo..
What if the crucifixion never took place?
The Romans crucified many hundreds, possibly thousands of people to strike terror into their enemies. Why should the death of one Jewish preacher mean any more than all the rest, if it even happened.
aside from obvious things that most people agree on, like theft being wrong and the importance of family, i can't think of a single thing i agree with the jws on, nothing that's specific to their religion anyway.
do you have any?.
I agree with the Borg that life is hard work and sometimes very difficult. I don't agree with their solution of inventing a fantasy scenario whereby a supreme being waves a wand and makes all the nastiness go away.
We and only us have the ability to make the world a better place and the whole point of this cult is a security blanket for people who can't cope with that fact.
what do you sincerely think?
do you nurture any hope?.
I would have to take the measurement myself.
So do it. Read a book, read many books. Visit a spiritualist church. Visit a medium. There is no God to disapprove of you and there are no demons to attack you. Do the research. Draw your own conclusions. Stop asking other people.
I'm still looking jrjw. I often find I read a whole book and only get one new idea from it. I'm closer to what it's all about than I ever used to be as a JW. I just don't feel the need to spread the word anymore, we all should find our own way.
Lots of reading and thinking have helped, but along the way I've learned to also enjoy the now, enjoy each day at the same time as I look for answers. Life can be so much fun.
a little advice please.. it's now 7 months since i stopped going to meetings.
we still get regular calls by elders - at least every 2 weeks.
i can handle them.
Yes, I'd DA I guess but I live in a teeny, tiny town my neighbours are JWs, I see JWs every single time I go out. I'm not sure I can handle them turning their backs on me just yet.
What else is new! They've been ignoring you for years you said. Phoebe your husband's out, your kids are out. Who cares what these stupid people in their tin-pot cult think about anything!
They think the end of the world is coming and Jesus is going to rule a world with vegetarian carnivores. They're nuts. Live your life with your wonderful, intelligent family. Those great kids you raised!
I Da'ed in a tiny village BTW. After a while I didn't even notice them ignoring me, which must have been very annoying for them. 😀
Yes of course, I'm always looking for facts and trying to understand reality. Never stop doing that. Question everything.
