was i the only one who secretly dreaded the new system of things a little bit when i was a believing witness?
of course i felt very guilty, because of all the sick and heartbroken people who needed a perfect world to live in.
but there are a lot of nice parts of life i was going to secretly miss.
Was I the only one who secretly dreaded the new system of things a little bit when I was a believing witness?
No you weren't the only one. My husband and I wanted to get away from it all when we got into the new system, live a quiet life out in the country, build a house, grow some food, have some babies and keep away from those screwed up, egotistical elders.
We said we would basically avoid all the crazy elders and COs until Jesus sorted them out. Yeah well.....then we realised.
hi guys!.
this thread is at least partly inspired by blondie's classical music thread.. i'm not particularly a musical person but i do appreciate good scores in film.. what are your favorites?.
here's a well-known movie score i like .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btdleusg9ew .
Love Hans Zimmer's score for Gladiator, particularly Earth
... filling in holes in my cds.
give me composer, work, key if possible.
I love Borodin's, In The Steppes Of Central Asia
i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.
but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.
if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?
Xanthippe, so, are you a "believer" or a "non"? Declare yourself, Sire! -Nathan
Sire? Not a reader of classical literature then? Try googling Xanthippe.
are you a "believer" or a "non"? Declare yourself
My post was not ambiguous, merely ironic. I see both sides of the argument for examining the paranormal and totally understand why many don't.
My personal research into the paranormal over thirty years since leaving the cult has led me to the conclusion that mind is more than the brain and therefore the survival of consciousness after death is feasible.
Simon's post here is exactly how I feel
- The paranormal / supernatural is the same as magic - defying normal / rational / provable science
i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.
but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.
if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?
Once bitten twice shy I'm afraid. People who've had their lives screwed up for decades by religious nonsense are terrified of being taken in again. That's why they won't read a single line on a website or read one book about the paranormal and then they insist there's no evidence.
Then they wheel on the fat magician and say nobody could convince him by doing exactly what he wanted according to his 'scientific' guidelines so he wouldn't give them the million dollars. So that proves it doesn't it! I don't have to read any books or think about it. The magician says there's no evidence so that's that. Nobody wants to be fooled again.
been to see the new film (movie) tonight.
outstanding!
brought back lots of memories.
I loved the film Bohemian Rhapsody! I remember the song so well in the seventies with that video. Yes he was definitely bi not gay, he deeply loved Mary but lived with a man until his death. Amazing actor and wasn't the Brian May lookalike so good.
Bob Geldof actor was excellent, he had the Geldof walk to perfection. I'm glad they ended on Live Aid with some of the real footage rather than focus on Freddy dying. Loved it, love the music of Queen.
7 years ago i had my last conversation with the toxic jw that mostly raised me.
every conversation was toxic for my entire adult life with her.
the last time we spoke was right before the memorial 7 years ago and she was laying on the usual heavy guilt and fear mongering about how jeho counts his people at the memorial.
My non-JW dad tried to get one of my sisters and I together when he found out she'd shunned me for fifteen years. He phoned her and then said she's fine about talking to you now. I doubted it very much but did as he asked because my mother had died and he wanted us to make up.
She said, Dad doesn't understand the situation. Her whole tone was, you know why we're doing this to you and you should understand you deserve it. I lost it and said how could he understand, how could anyone understand, what you're doing in cruel and unusual punishment! She said I was criticising her religion and slammed the phone down.
Her husband has cancer so I've heard on the grapevine. Will she realise how cruel she's been if he dies and she becomes a widow too? I doubt it somehow. I'm afraid I will not comfort her, I'm not a Christian, I don't forgive seventy times seven times.
yes fellow forum members, samhain (pronounced 'sawin') is upon us!.
so, got anything planned?.
for me, money's a bit tight atm so i'll be staying in and watching halloween (1978).
Going to see A Quiet Place at a local cinema with a friend. Looking forward to it. Supposed to be very scary.
Happy Halloween. 👹🎃🎃 😈💀
story in the guardian: .
"--freedom of expression, as guaranteed by article 10 of the european convention on human rights, includes the right “not to express an opinion which one does not hold”, hale added.
“this court has held that nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe,” she said.--".
The point is, you cannot
Precisely the point I was making Simon, even though LUHE has twice asserted you can legally refuse to serve someone because they are gay and show them the door.
As you say and as I said first, you cannot. I was making no comment on whether or not the legislation is ill-conceived, simply that LUHE does not understand British law but as usual he has buggered off when shown to be wrong.
story in the guardian: .
"--freedom of expression, as guaranteed by article 10 of the european convention on human rights, includes the right “not to express an opinion which one does not hold”, hale added.
“this court has held that nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe,” she said.--".
I don't know Simon, I'm simply answering LUHE's point that you can refuse to serve someone and ask them to leave without getting into trouble in the UK.
