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  I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

  by ohnightdivine in

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  i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

  on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

  i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

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  Xanthippe

  Tosca, welcome to the forum and your freedom. Don't be alone, pull up a chair and when you feel ready tell us about yourself if you're able.
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  I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

  by ohnightdivine in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

  on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

  i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

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  Xanthippe

  That's god news ohnightdivine. Good that you finally have someone to talk to and that he/she and their siblings are all awake but trapped in because it suggests there are thousands like this. Just one big child abuse court case or similar and they might all be out.
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  Just wanted to share my little bit of good news.

  by nicolaou in

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  i haven't been posting here much lately, i think i only created one topic in 2018!

  but this is worth it.. i am a grandfather 😊.

  it happens all the time but damn, it feels good.

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  Xanthippe

  Congratulations Nic! Wonderful news, so pleased for you, I can feel your joy from your words.
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  Reflecting On Death

  by Charles Gillette in

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  reflecting on death.

  i can't remember, maybe steve jobs before he died.i thought i would share it with you and see what you think about it, and i'm quoting i think from his book.. "i'm about fifty-fifty on believing in god.

  for most of my life, i've felt that there must be more to our own existence than meets the eye.. i might be overestimating the odds 50/50 out of a desire to believe in an afterlife.

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  Xanthippe

  IS it so small a thing
  To have enjoy'd the sun,
  To have lived light in the spring,
  To have loved, to have thought, to have done;
  To have advanced true friends, and beat down baffling foes;	5
  That we must feign a bliss
  Of doubtful future date,
  And while we dream on this
  Lose all our present state, Matthew Arnold Live well now and don't worry about things you have no power to change, including death.
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  Did you actually read the bible end to end?

  by Ultimate Axiom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

  i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

  well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

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  Xanthippe

  Yeah I did read it through, didn't think I could preach to other people about it otherwise. So many weird stories, incest, rape, murdering children and even domestic animals in the land of Canaan. Apparently God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. You can keep the God who permitted all that.
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Xanthippe

  They have a brain and a mind limited as it might be.How are we or science to explain this behavior?

  I don't understand, what behaviour? If they experience things they can't tell us about how would we know? What are you trying to say?

  For the record I have no evidence at this time of my research to accept that the physical body brain and all of its organs cease to be when death comes to it.

  Okay, that's interesting, your research would probably be classed as anecdotal here as I've mentioned but as you say declaring we don't know everything at this time is fine. I feel I'm missing something here so perhaps you could clarify?
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  The paranormal.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

  but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

  if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

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  Xanthippe

  I agree unsure, the universe is mind-bogglingly huge and must surely contain wonders beyond our imagination. Other inhabited planets perhaps, weird life forms that don't conform to our understating of 'life' as yet, etc.

  Some of us have had experiences of unusual phenomena and if we try to describe them to others it understandably becomes a case of saying that is anecdotal and not scientific evidence. That's fair enough, that's exactly what it is.

  For those to whom it has happened though, it is real and they don't deserve the name-calling. But it has ever been so when anyone in the past described phenomena that he or she can't yet prove. This is how much of accepted science has developed.
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  Should calling someone 'Nazi' be made illegal?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. current

  a rabble-rouser called james goddard and a crowd of pro-brexit people called anna soubry 'nazi' recently.. the same crowd also called owen jones a few names.. i don't know these people but they seem to be unsavory people - they were certainly not behaving themselves.. the met police are looking into the matter, to see if the crowd did anything illegal.

  a journalist asked the police officer if calling someone 'nazi' is illegal.

  the officer said 'that's what we're looking into'.. first, this crowd behaved badly, no question.. what i find fascinating, though, is the speed of response from authorities.. calling people fascist or nazi has been going on for decades.

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  Yesterdays Times says Soubry asked the police officer standing nearby for help from the name-calling and he said it's democracy.
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  Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

  there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

  he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

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  Xanthippe

  but spiritually mature Christians would be expected to make decisions consistent with their circumstances, which might include college if they can afford to do what some in their congregation cannot do. - djeggnog

  You know this isn't true, WT apologist. If you are a 'mature' Christian, e.g. an elder, you will likely lose your position if you encourage your kids to go to university.

  
  
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  Elders encouraging young ones to live in a fairy tale

  by Addison0998 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so one of the elders at the meeting tonight addressed to parents in his talk, “if your child wants to flip burgers for the rest of their life, because that’s is the only job that will allow them to have a schedule for full time service, you would want to support them the best you can.” he has also said told parents that if their children already have plans to go to college, even in the near future, they should try to do everything to stop them.

  there’s so much ranting i could do about that alone, but to make matters worse, this is a considerably well off man.

  he has his own buisness, a nice house with an additional room he added on last year, and him and his wife just took a lavish european trip.

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  Xanthippe

  Yeah when I was pioneering and living in a freezing rented apartment all the elders had big houses and several cars. To add insult to injury the elders asked me and my pioneer husband to put the circuit overseer up when we'd only been married two months. Because we had plenty of money to feed them!