Xanthippe

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  I'd like to see something like this

  by frozen2018 in

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  a dragon aurora over iceland.

  i've seen auroras, both northern and southern, but nothing like this.. .

  while not nearly as spectacular as a dragon aurora, if you think of it take a look at the super snow moon tonight.

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  Frozen I'd love to see the Northern Lights, hoping I might in April in Norway.
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  Did you know most jehovah witnesses don’t even follow their own rules?

  by Walrus in

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  (before you read anything i was born into this religion and am just counting down the days until i can leave) so i made one other post before because i signed up thinking that this was just a one time venting thing for me and everyone that replied on my last post was super helpful and i thank you if you’re reading this one but shit.

  i’ve never released this much emotion especially to strangers, not even with my own parents and with you guys i feel like i can say anything about how i feel and it’s all good because you all feel the same as i do.

  but anyway i just got into some shit with my mom and step dad.

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  It's frustrating I know. I was discouraged from going to university because they were having sex in the corridors! My mother was like yours, blind as to how the world works and she wanted to keep her kids naive too.

  JWs are taught the world is a terrible place full of immoral, vile people. It's cult indoctrination to keep them from finding out about normal life or educating their children. As surely as night follows day education will mean the kids realising they're in a cult and the leaders don't want that.

  Hang in there and keep posting here. It's good to vent but please could you try writing in paragraphs? It's a little hard to read without them. Thanks.
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  Everybody loves Raymond

  by Saintbertholdt in

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  a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".

  the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.

  by nature i am an iconoclast.

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  ThomasThomas, I'm not quite sure what you mean but Ray Franz continued to be a Christian so I presume he believed he was going to heaven when he died. His second book which I didn't read but I believe was called In Search of Christian Freedom might tell you more.
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  This religion is way too restrictive

  by Walrus in

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  i need to vent about some stuff that this religion does to just about anyone at this point.

  so i was raised in this religion and when i was 12 or 13 i told my mom (and step dad which has made my decision much firmer) that i didn’t want to be a witness because it’s too restrictive.

  my mom proceeded to cry and guilt trip her way into ending this conversation.

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  Hi and welcome. We know exactly what you're going through. I was born in and pioneered at sixteen, I wish I'd gone to college instead. Well done insisting you go back to school.

  All you can do is get an education and hang in there until you're financially independent and leave home. I know it's hard but that's all you can do.

  Perhaps you could make up with your real dad to get him on side to let you go to football,
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  The origin of the word Lullaby

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  reading around the subject of lillith, the alledged, rebel first wife of adam, i stumbled upon this link and many others that link the custom of singing babies to sleep as an ancient jewish superstition.. http://www.jeanniemusick.com/lilith-world/lilith-as-the-origin-of-the-lullaby/.

  some of the research could probably be argued but looking at it from the wt perspective and mirroring their usual reasoning, i could imagine the following.... ... it appears that the word "lullaby" originates from the the hebrew "lilith-abi", which means "lilith be gone".

  jewish mothers used to sing these songs to their babies in bed in hopes that they would be protected from this baby snatching demon called lilith.

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  STA that's really interesting thanks. The origin of words and practises is fascinating.
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  Believing Everything That You Hear

  by minimus in

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  you would think exjws would be on the lookout for anything said by people...the news media, politicians, actors that might sound suspicious or questionable.

  it seems like some people just will never learn how to be discerning..

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  X, we should learn from our mistakes and wise up! - Minimus

  Your op is saying some exJWs will never learn. Pure hubris, you're saying you have learned but other exJWs will never learn.
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  Believing Everything That You Hear

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  you would think exjws would be on the lookout for anything said by people...the news media, politicians, actors that might sound suspicious or questionable.

  it seems like some people just will never learn how to be discerning..

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  On for pete's sake we were all in a bloody stupid cult for decades, we cannot criticise anyone who falls for a stupid idea!
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  Jephthah's daughter : A shining example of singleness

  by Diogenesister in

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  2. bible

  really watchtower?

  jephthah's daughter as an example of what a girl wants to be when she grows up??.

  a burnt offering?!!.

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  This Bible story is an example of the deep seated theist view that personal sacrifice is a good thing. Now we understand that the way we've evolved we need constant challenge and novelty because that's the way apes are, we get bored easily.

  To translate that into the need to make our lives as hard as possible and give up our happiness for the sake of others or to appease a god is a misunderstanding of what we are.
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  Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(

  by Diogenesister in

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  i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.

  after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!

  you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.

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  why would anyone care if I lied and said I didn't believe in Jehovah anymore, just to keep save them. Then I'd hear them talk about Shadrach Meshach and Abednego the Hebrew boys who stood firm and were thrown into the fiery furnace. I always wondered what happened to them after that. Surely they went on to live noteworthy lives

  They didn't need to be mentioned again did they Pete, they'd already done their job of teaching vulnerable young minds we need to suffer for our faith. I'm sorry you had such fear as a child because of the threat of the great tribulation hanging over you and your sisters, that's awful.

  I have often thought the same, why would anyone care if you said you didn't believe in God when questioned by potential torturers, just to stay safe? That mythical Bible story and similar ones have been responsible for the suffering and death of countless thousands of believers. Sickens me.
  
  
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  Should I do this?

  by CivilServant79 in

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  hi there this is my first post as i’m not sure what to do.

  my family (both sides) are well known in our circuit and very dedicated to the truth.

  but we’re relatively normal people and i love them all so much.

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  Can you be sure if you agree to meet up with your uncle for coffee there won't be another elder there? What do you do if you arrive and he says oh I invited (other elder) along, you don't mind do you? Then you're stuck not wanting to appear rude, offend a family member but faced with a pre-judicial 'fishing' meeting.