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  Had any weird dreams recently?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
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  so, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.

  then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!

  she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).

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  Truthseeker it was a Freud joke - blame the mother - you know?
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  Had any weird dreams recently?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.

  then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!

  she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).

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  You know it's weird I haven't had dream in years. I wonder what Freud would say about that?

  Did your mother show you enough affection?
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  Farewell

  by EdenOne in

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  2. experiences

  "don't be dismayed by good-byes.

  a farewell is necessary before you can meet again.

  and meeting again, after moments or lifetimes, is certain for those who are friends.

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  I was amazed at your story of getting your dear wife mentally out of the cult Eden. How you did it and suggestions for others in the same position would be of great benefit to many people coming here for help. In life we always come across a few people with enormous egos but I find for the most part it's better to avoid them. I hope you decide to stay but have a great life anyway, whatever you decide.
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  This is a very important observation and a good reminder to keep in mind.
  And while it might explain such behavior, it certainly does not justify it.
  So with this in mind, what strategies can we use to "talk them down off the ledge" of their cult-indoctrination and the consequences of waking up and realizing they've been duped, (a process most, if not all, of us here had to go through).

  Oubliette they are not suicidal. I vividly remember the day my husband and I were reading a newspaper and I looked up and said, it was just another religion wasn't it? He said, yes I think it was. This was two years after leaving.

  We read and studied, I did an IT course at a local college to help me get a job. I mixed with normal people and got my mind working, later I did a degree. So did my husband. What I'm saying is it's a long journey, people find their own way. We don't have to save them.
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  I don't personally agree with it but I think it's because a person's identity, their belief about the purpose of life and their view on life after death are usually tied up with their religion. -me

  If they choose to bring it up for discussion, how tied up and invested in that ideas falls under the category of "You should have about that before you decided to bring the topic up, theist." - Viviane

  Yeah I agree but that presupposes the average person has a clue that what they believe affects them on such a deep level. When they join a thread on here sometimes they've just left or are trying to leave a cult that has twisted their mind in knots since babyhood. I speak from experience. Have a good flight Viv.
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  Oubliette, in the UK there is a saying never discuss religion or politics. I don't personally agree with it but I think it's because a person's identity, their belief about the purpose of life and their view on life after death are usually tied up with their religion.

  I think it's a wonder we can discuss religion at all on here given we are such a diverse group of people. Religion gets to people 'where they live' so it's bound to be tough going. I think this thread has just run its course and it's time to end it now IMHO.
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  How have you felt since you learned TTATT?

  by tornapart in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's been 4 years since it happened to me.

  an almost overnight experience.

  i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.

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  How do you live with the fact you've allowed yourself to be duped despite the fact you know you have a certain amount of intelligence?

  Tell congregations education is bad for you and is only for arrogant people who want to make you feel small (knowledge puffs up). That universities are full of people having sex in the corridors.

  That all books apart from those written by the WTS are filled with satanic nonsense that will lead to your everlasting death. Tell them the TV is a one-eyed demon in the corner of your living room so you are even afraid of documentaries.

  No wonder we were ignorant. It was by design. Deliberate indoctrination to make even the intelligent fear knowledge and higher education. I see the methods they used on me so I don't feel I was stupid, just lacking in education and life experience.
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  Cofty I agree. Some things leave me speechless. I like to conserve pixels for good causes.
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  On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

  i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

  it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

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  Xanthippe

  So tempted to make a 'testy' reply in line with the expletive that is popular on this thread but I am too chilled at the moment. Just couldn't resist it for fun.😄
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  Heroes

  by done4good in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in jw land having such was verboten.

  who are some of yours and why?.

  1. nikola tesla - greatest inventor ever, and the only one i know of who was a true scientist as well.. 2. elon musk - there is a reason he chose the great inventor's name for his masterpiece work...also has a serious pair.... 3. jim morrison - brilliant and mad poet.. 4. mike krzyzewski - the epitome of success.. 5. maya angelou - brilliant humanistic poet and writer.. 6. albert einstein - do i actually have to qualify this?.

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  Xanthippe

  prologos7 hours agoXanthippe Marie Curie 2. Emily Hobhouse 3.Lady Mary Montagu Eglantyne Jebb--
  these are not Heroes,-- Sheroes.

  I've not heard that expression before Prologos. Hero is either male or gender-neutral surely. Well I've learnt something. Yes it's strange isn't it that Save the Children is part of the Disasters Emergency Committee in the UK and always on the ground where there is a war zone or human suffering but no one knows Eglantyne Jebb's name.
  

  The same with Mary Montagu, her enthusiasm and influence as an ambassador's wife which got the royal family interested in inoculation added to the effort to eradicate smallpox. Seems sad that no one has heard of her either but only of Edward Jenner.
  

  As for Emily Hobhouse I'm not surprised that she's been swept under the carpet. Who knew the British invented concentration camps. Shameful.
  

  Who says history hasn't been edited eh?