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  You Need to Heal

  by TheLiberator in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it has been awhile since i posted.

  but i wanted to say a few things that may help those recovering from the watchtower, especially if you have just discovered ttatt.

  it is with humility that i come here to express these thoughts.

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  Xanthippe

  Yes I agree no need to run into other belief systems. Catch up on childhood first, with holidays, horror films, family fun whatever we were denied. Otherwise we get stuck in the mindset of a child with a longing for fun and freedom.
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  I'm Fed up and I can't take it anymore!

  by MTSman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was born in four gen, been d.f.d.

  for about eight years now.

  my father had always been a true company man, although more times than i can count, he's always been floppy.

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  Xanthippe

  My JW family drive me crazy too so I sympathise MTSman.

  For once I agree with Nathan you know your situation best. You know the ins and outs of your parents' personalities and how best to treat them. There's only so much a person can stand and you may have reached your limit. Only you know.
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  Odd choice of words

  by Nevuela in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why is it that when a jw gives someone a magazine, they use the word "place" instead of "give"?

  as in "i placed a magazine with him".

  and why do regular door-to-door jws of no special rank refer to themselves as publishers?

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  We asked for a contribution for the mags, which made us think the org. was making a loss, which was a lie.That's why they emphasised place not sell. Now I think they have to do it to continue as a tax exempt non-profit.

  Why were we called publishers? We were supposed to be publishing the good news, whatever that ridiculous phrase means, but how appropriate for members of a publishing company.
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  Were you aware of the shunning policy when becoming a JW

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?

  i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.

  it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .

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  Xanthippe

  for the born in's, were you fully aware of the shunning policy and it's potential repercussions when you got baptised whilst young?

  I knew about disfellowshipping because it's the one question I got wrong when the elder studied with me before my baptism at fifteen. All the other kids there got it right but I said it was for punishment, I just couldn't swallow the 'it's an act of love' nonsense.

  So he went over it all again and asked if I understood now but I still saw it as punishment. They still let me get baptised!

  When I left home at nineteen my friend in the new congregation, yeah I still went stupid me, was talking about a woman she know whose son was disfellowshipped and she'd said to him he was dead to her. Her own son! I was shocked, I think that was the first time the shunning sunk in. I knew then I could never do that to a child of mine.
  
  
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  If this system goes on.

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.

  years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..

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  If I live long enough I expect I'll be going to my brother and sisters funerals one day and the speaker in the KH will still be saying the new system is coming any day now. My mother thought we wouldn't go to school. I hope against hope they will realise before then it's all nonsense and we can be together again. Where there life there's hope.
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  Jehovah God is Real

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

  but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

  yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

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  God hears your prayers as well as what you write on the internet. Think before you write.

  This is what worries me about your God, TOTC, you think he will punish us because of what we write. Surely he's so busy running the universe and preparing to bring paradise earth that he doesn't care what we say on the Internet?

  Perhaps if he's so good at reading online he should email his new light to the GB because they keep getting it wrong.
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  I really hate what religion has done to my head, namely just one religion.

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in 1974 my mom fell for the lies of the jws, and became a member, dragging me along for the ride.

  i was only around four years old.

  that lie she fell for was that in the fall of 1975 she would be reunited with my older sister.

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  Xanthippe

  The brain works along well trodden paths through habit, Tameria. If you keep breaking through the barriers eventually your brain will be okay with it and just say oh right so this is what I do now.

  
  The emotion that keeps coming up saying no this is wrong actually takes about 60 seconds to pass through your body. If you let it wash over you and then do it anyway you will make new habits in you brain. I know it feels horrible but you can cope for one minute, ride that wave. All the best.
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  Australian Royal Commission mentions that G. Jackson was inconsistent

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.

  when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.

  mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..

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  Yeah I noticed the 'it would seem' which they could use to back peddle later to the R+F and say it was theocratic warfare, but using it to the ARC was sheer stupidity. Doesn't the GB think lawyers and judges are trained to recognise this sort of language? They are trained in law for gods sake. They tried double talk on the wrong guys.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses did not protect children from abuse, inquiry finds.

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-protect-children-from-abuse-inquiry-finds.

  im printing this off and spending my next sunday morning doing some door to door work posting this article through all the letter boxes of the street my local kh is on.. it's shocking that none of the r&f know about this.

  i have a feeling that the 2 witness rule will be revised in 2017 and made to look like it was jehovah's proper time.

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  Don't kid yourselves, guys.
  The Org has given every indication so far that they will not budge on this, and damn the consequences. - Vidiot

  Good, because if they don't budge they're going to fall foul of the Australian government when it has perused this report.
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  Navigating the "real world"

  by Minerva in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  although i haven't called myself a witness in almost 15 years, i'm still married to one (which has it's own set of challenges and is fodder for a completely different post).

  i haven't spent a lot of time on forums with other ex-jws either, but thought i would throw this question out to you all because it's something i still struggle with.... particularly for those of you who were raised in or were in the religion for many years - what has it been like for you to navigate the work world?

  i would be a 3rd generation jw on one side of my family and a 4th generation on the other side -- the hardest thing for me has been just knowing how to act and behave, especially among co-workers.

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  Xanthippe

  Hi Minerva I totally get what you're saying. I'm an introvert and despite being out a very long time it is hard to build friendships from scratch when you lose all your friends and most of your relatives.

  Most people at work have large extended families and still keep in touch with school and college friends. I don't have any of that because of course I wasn't allowed to have friends at school or go to college although I got a degree after leaving. Well done doing that yourself and getting your masters and then a good job. Brilliant!

  I have joined a local group I found on Meetup.com and also a book group. We do meals out, Xmas drinks, pub quizzes etc. I've realised that the people who join, many have been divorced or their partners have died or they're new to the area so people find themselves isolated for different reasons apart from cults.

  Also at work events I did sometimes feel odd especially at Xmas because I didn't know what to expect. Just have a glass of wine and try and join in. You might get a taste for it 😀