i need to vent about some stuff that this religion does to just about anyone at this point.
so i was raised in this religion and when i was 12 or 13 i told my mom (and step dad which has made my decision much firmer) that i didn’t want to be a witness because it’s too restrictive.
my mom proceeded to cry and guilt trip her way into ending this conversation.
Hi and welcome. We know exactly what you're going through. I was born in and pioneered at sixteen, I wish I'd gone to college instead. Well done insisting you go back to school.
All you can do is get an education and hang in there until you're financially independent and leave home. I know it's hard but that's all you can do.
Perhaps you could make up with your real dad to get him on side to let you go to football,
reading around the subject of lillith, the alledged, rebel first wife of adam, i stumbled upon this link and many others that link the custom of singing babies to sleep as an ancient jewish superstition.. http://www.jeanniemusick.com/lilith-world/lilith-as-the-origin-of-the-lullaby/.
some of the research could probably be argued but looking at it from the wt perspective and mirroring their usual reasoning, i could imagine the following.... ... it appears that the word "lullaby" originates from the the hebrew "lilith-abi", which means "lilith be gone".
jewish mothers used to sing these songs to their babies in bed in hopes that they would be protected from this baby snatching demon called lilith.
STA that's really interesting thanks. The origin of words and practises is fascinating.
you would think exjws would be on the lookout for anything said by people...the news media, politicians, actors that might sound suspicious or questionable.
it seems like some people just will never learn how to be discerning..
X, we should learn from our mistakes and wise up! - Minimus
Your op is saying some exJWs will never learn. Pure hubris, you're saying you have learned but other exJWs will never learn.
you would think exjws would be on the lookout for anything said by people...the news media, politicians, actors that might sound suspicious or questionable.
it seems like some people just will never learn how to be discerning..
On for pete's sake we were all in a bloody stupid cult for decades, we cannot criticise anyone who falls for a stupid idea!
really watchtower?
jephthah's daughter as an example of what a girl wants to be when she grows up??.
a burnt offering?!!.
This Bible story is an example of the deep seated theist view that personal sacrifice is a good thing. Now we understand that the way we've evolved we need constant challenge and novelty because that's the way apes are, we get bored easily.
To translate that into the need to make our lives as hard as possible and give up our happiness for the sake of others or to appease a god is a misunderstanding of what we are.
i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
why would anyone care if I lied and said I didn't believe in Jehovah anymore, just to keep save them. Then I'd hear them talk about Shadrach Meshach and Abednego the Hebrew boys who stood firm and were thrown into the fiery furnace. I always wondered what happened to them after that. Surely they went on to live noteworthy lives
They didn't need to be mentioned again did they Pete, they'd already done their job of teaching vulnerable young minds we need to suffer for our faith. I'm sorry you had such fear as a child because of the threat of the great tribulation hanging over you and your sisters, that's awful.
I have often thought the same, why would anyone care if you said you didn't believe in God when questioned by potential torturers, just to stay safe? That mythical Bible story and similar ones have been responsible for the suffering and death of countless thousands of believers. Sickens me.
hi there this is my first post as i’m not sure what to do.
my family (both sides) are well known in our circuit and very dedicated to the truth.
but we’re relatively normal people and i love them all so much.
Can you be sure if you agree to meet up with your uncle for coffee there won't be another elder there? What do you do if you arrive and he says oh I invited (other elder) along, you don't mind do you? Then you're stuck not wanting to appear rude, offend a family member but faced with a pre-judicial 'fishing' meeting.
can't believe how fast time has gone by.
my mom taught me that the world was gonna end by the time i was 25..
Happy Birthday Joliette!
i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.
after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!
you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.
Hi Diogenesister, I think I saw the earth transformed, beautiful mountains, rivers, trees and animals. Just like the pictures in the literature! But I didn't imagine being anywhere near JWs especially elders because I was sick of the unpleasant people who just seemed to want to bite and tear at one another.
Basically I wanted to escape to the country! 😀 Just me, my lovely husband, a few animals and have some babies. What's so sad is that was completely doable without that damn religion and its fantasy world.
how much longer until more people believe the earth is flat then there are jws?
with these youtube channels using propaganda and the bible i believe over a million people now believe the earth is flat.
it maybe not much longer.
It's one way for stupid, uneducated people to feel superior to scientists. To feel they have knowledge beyond the lies they see the establishment is trying to fool them with. Very similar to religious cults.
