Malsonilla,
I AM an athiest, since even the littles gods dont really exist.
perfect1
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So, I had a thought about wicked spirits lately...
by sd-7 inthe whole reason i even got dragged into this jw stuff, and we didn't just become somebody's return visit they never came back on, is because my mom claimed that the demons were talking to her.
they told her that the jws knew the truth about them, so she called the local kingdom hall.
bible study was started, and that was that.
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So, I had a thought about wicked spirits lately...
by sd-7 inthe whole reason i even got dragged into this jw stuff, and we didn't just become somebody's return visit they never came back on, is because my mom claimed that the demons were talking to her.
they told her that the jws knew the truth about them, so she called the local kingdom hall.
bible study was started, and that was that.
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perfect1
There is no God, but there are many gods, and many sub classes of other lesser entities, who like attention but really dont care about you unless you are invoking them or doing something. I am an athiest, but I see ghosts, and own divination methods which I use occasionally.
I would say the form above you was a real experience, I have had something similar myself, but why should a demon bother you- unless they smell fear like sharks smell blood. My good friend believes the Wt is actually the organization of a snake demon which you can feel when you sit in the KH. And why not.
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I am exhausted emotionally.
by PaintedToeNail ini have been reading ashley judd's 'all things bitter and sweet' autobiography, and it has exhausted me.
she paints a picture of neglect and abuse from early childhood on.
as i sat reading, i realised i was identifying with so much of what she wrote.. why, when having an emotional breakdown as a teenager, major obsessive compulsive disorder, obvious depression symptoms, would you refuse to get medical help for your child?
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Wow, Seriously painted,
I can relate to your story from my own life experience.
My parents would not take their children to the hospital when bones were broken on two separate occasions. Similar to you my Dad uprooted his family following some non existant job prospect to a cold and impoverished place where we were all unprepared. I had freezing and wet feet every single day. Strangely, no one ever cared to ask me if I was warm enough in the cast off clothing. In fact I was freezing, and made to gather wood.
Also, as an adult while in college they came to visit me, typically bereft of any resources they stayed with me in my room in a house I shared with roommates. My mom cooked a meal which I was unable to eat because I was feeling ill. She was so angry that I refused her food she would not say goodbye, and rolled up the window on my pleading with her as they drove away and I stood in the driveway crying and feverish.
As it turned out, I was unable to eat because I had pneumonia. I was sick alone and delirious for over a week during Christmas break. All of my housemates had gone to their families for the holiday, while mine had driven away in anger.
Eventually, a roomate did come back, I was halucinating from dehydration and sickness, I had not left my bed in several days and in that time ate and drank nothing. My roomate took me to the hospital, and after about two weeks I recovered. My condition was serious and at the hospital I needed an IV.
Even as an adult, they are unable to SEE me and take anything I do to be a personal insult against them, even when I have been desperately in need of their help.
I am going through a similar thing as you, I am just beginning to grasp what my life was like and who they really are and what they did.
Neglect is abuse.
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Anyone know of any effective but simple diets/diet tips? Weight gain after giving up smoking!
by Lozhasleft ini'm really struggling with this.
i gave up smoking a few months back and have put on around 20lbs already.
i've gone up another dress size and i wasn't slim to begin with!
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Loz, I just watched the movie, Fat, Sick and nearly dead.
It is so good!
You should check it out.
Its about juicing.
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Is college worth it?
by NewYork44M inmy life has been transformed by higher education.
however, i am aware that college is not for everyone.. here are some interesting thoughts:.
http://www.theatlasphere.com/columns/080926-williams-higher-education.php.
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I want to transfer to get my bachlors degree. but I just feel so discorged by it all. I am full time. My alternative is just work as a stockboy at a supermarket.
Ok, so it sounds like you are in community college getting an associates degree- getting your general ed requirements out of the way.
It sounds like you are really lacking in motivation and if being a stockboy sounds good to you- I would go do that- AFTER you complete your last class- Are you kidding me. Im sorry but some things you are saying dont add up- you have one class left but you are full time- youve been doing that 4 years but dont have a degree- either you are fulltime in which case you can actually finish in less than four years- or you are taking one class at atime which will take 16 years!!!
Regardless, though I strongly believe in and advocate for higher ed, if putting cans on a shelf is preferable to you- go do that. Some people are not cut out for college. You should not continue until you identify a career goal and the major to help you get there.
If you ever do want to go on you have the general ed under your belt so you are halfway there.
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Malvinas, I would tend to disagree with you, as evidenced by the fact that JWs readily accept new ideas which are integrated into the existing framework. All it would take is phrasing it in such a way that it works with the other doctrines. Because there is mind control, people already think the doctrinal changes were there to begin with- the response to the FDS new light was- I thought of this myself independently. Somehow by the time a change is implemented so many seeds have been planted that no one notices it as a doctrinal about face.
Imagine you are sitting in large District Convention in a stadium with 10,000 other people. Who all begin to line up, Babies first. You might look around hoping to catchsomeones eye but everyone has that stupor or deluded smile. The same way you might occasionally look around to see if anyone registers a blatant idiotic thing someone says in a talk.
Why would JWs need to commit mass suicde- It could be the way Jim Jones said torture was imminent. Or- get resurrected immeadiately. Its JHVHs merciful arrangement that everyone not endure the tribulation- quote scripture- reinterpret revelation- some bible math to indicate the time of sleep required before the Paradise will come- JWs may be taught now suicide is bad- but they dont really believe death is a big deal- similar to Jones- it is just a sleep, and one from which JHVH will wake you up from in your most perfect and youthful form. Actually its suprising more DONT commmit suicide. No one wants to grow old in this wicked system of things!
The main difference is- The WTBTS has an enormous amount to lose- with a few holding the power- there is not a single man calling the shots- they have an interest in keeping it moving and I cant imagine a moment where they might be willing to put an end to it.
If they did, I have no doubt that everyone would line up- why not- they already have given up everything in this life- work, family, friends, they are no part of the world. All the Society has to say is that the preaching work is over. Compare the mass suicide to getting on Noahs ark. Done.
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With elders like that, who needs Pharisees!
by 00DAD ini'm sure you're all familiar with the quip, "with friends like that, who needs enemies!
a recent thread got me thinking about how this easily applies to the organization in general and to many of the elders in particular.
now i know, there are some few good elders out there (god knows i tried to be one).
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00D- there is a moment in Rays trial video where they mention stoning him as well- must be a thing they do.
Anyone know the exact spot where that is- As we know it is a lengthy video series.
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Looking After Widows and Orphans... and Spending One's "Riches"
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.
from time to time the issue of how to fulfill the "form of worship that is acceptable to god," mentioned by james in his letter, namely, looking after widows and orphans "in their tribulation"... comes up.
given the issue of tithing, the plethora of institutionalized charity choices, and the existence of ones in need, perhaps in our own households and families... but certainly in our towns, countries... and around the world... how does one fulfill this requirement?
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I sense an impending epic battle
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Just Because Someone Is A JW "Apologist", It Doesn't Mean WE Have To Be Condescending & Nasty
by minimus ini know certain apologists might rub us the wrong way, but let's not treat them like their pieces of sh*t.. and i know certain posters might rub us the wrong way, but let's not be so quick to beat everybody down that's not of our same reasoning.. just saying..
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I agree with mrs jones. They are super arrogant- also- I have never personally hurt a JW- however I have been hurt by many, most of us have. I dont separate the mind control from the person, like some do. If it comes out of their mouth, they are responsible for it.
That is just my opinion and I do admire those people who are respectful and engage with no hostility. I usually dont care about the crap they talk about- 607- and other Bible numerology.
Actually I think Christ Alone is an example of a very respectful poster. I like him except when he wears his apologist cap, then I feel betrayed.
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Hey NC-
looking at this stuff I went back an reread the work of Zimbardo, and Milgram, and this has been on my mind all day!
What is it about human nature that people WANT to be obedient and turn off and trust someone, anyone who has the balls to pick up a microphone.
