15 one brother who was raised in a christian household wrote that for as long as he could remember, he struggled with homosexual tendencies.
he said: i always felt awkward.
it seemed that i didnt fit in anywhere.
SEXUALITY IS A SPECTRUM PEOPLE.
Bella, your comment reminds me of this delightful song, do you know it
When you call my name
Its like a little prayer
Im down on my knees
I wanna take you there
In the midnight hour
I can feel your power
Just like a prayer
You know Ill take you there
lately, i've been reading a number of thread lately that deal with this topic.
one particularly poignant experience came from simon.
in simon's story he shares: .
Long Hair Gal,
No kidding! All shunning does is show what small minded, deluded poison this religion is. Relationships are based on trust, and once that trust has been broken by shunning, its hard to get back. In the real world, friendships go through phases and some fade naturally as personalities and interests fade. In JW land- people are always getting locked into unrealisitc notions of permanence about who someone is and has been.
LIFE IS SHORT, and for those of us who have experienced shunning, you might not want to waste your time or heart with people who dropped you once and could do it again- all for a stupid cult. Some people and bonds are resillient, other relationships are severed by shunning. In my experience, I have been very suprised by the people who still talk to me and those who dont. Its not who I expected.
recently i went to a public talk in the mafia capitol of the us- not where i grew up.. an italian american was the speaker, and the entire thing sounded like it was taken out of the godfather- especially as the keyword for that talk was bloodguilt.
and was repeated a million times.
now most people around me had fallen into the hypnotic trance which occurs in khs, and i was of course, alert and paying attention.. his logic was somehow that all religions except jws start wars and are bloodguilty, and then he got to the (logical) conclusion that we are all bloodguilty if we dont convert people to be jws.. it was a weird argument for sure- but add to that the accent and it was comical.. did hearing the talks in another language or dialect ever help you realize how silly its sounds- like a parody of itself.....
Hey Eva,
Wow meetings in Italy! I think I may be European myself as I see nothing wrong from throwing back a glass of wine at lunch either. heheheh.
This experience makes me think it would be very funny to do a Godfather 4- where they family becomes JWs and they all talk about bloodguilt and harlots all the time. Instead of threatening their enemies with getting knocked off- they threatend them with destruction at Armageddon. All in Italian accents. This would be amazing. Film makers, producers, actors please contact me and we will make this project a reality.
my philosophy when i was a teenager :"those who admit to it are stupid ,those who deny it are liars" that was my response to peers who posed such a subject when i was a teen .now, being a mature aged person i think this subject could do with a bit more enlightened content.. i am a male so i can`t speak for the females ,who, i hope will give their input on this topic for discussion.and i mean it as a serious discussion.. males experience erections from the time they are babies and the natural thing to do is to hold it , and before you know it fondling it gives you releif.. society doesnt help by making you feel guilty and like shit as a dirty person.why in the world do babes ,young children ,young boys get erections before they even know what it`s function is for.
if a god designed sex for procreation then surely this wouldnt become an issue until they reached the age of puberty ,not when a male is still a baby.. and getting back to my op nowhere in the bible does it talk about masturbation which surely has been going on since adam was a boy/man.. i`m sorry, but to deny that you would have to be a complete idiot ,imbecile ,fool ,or just brain dead.. so for 4000 years of inspired scriptures from god ,nothing is said about a condition that effects every man from his birth to his death .. makes you wonder doesn`t it ?.
smiddy.
I think you should just do it until you cant anymore.
Then take a break.
rinse repeat.
LOL
i was sitting in my car, finishing an egg mcmuffin before going to the grocery store when i noticed a dubbie going around talking to people in the parking lot.
i thought the chances were good she would approach me, and i decided i was going to do more than decline to take the pamphlet.. after i verified she was a jw, i said that i was a former member.
i said "do you know what the awake said in 1969?
Good job Lisa Rose!
I think you did better than I did in my my adventure on the bus.
This kind of thing takes guts at any age, I am proud that you used YOUR OWN life experience to back up what you said.
there are many stories on jwn about the heartbreak of losing ones family to the wtbts.
but after a few years out, people do seem to get their lives back.. i was wondering if anyone wants to share about finding happiness once outside the org- how has you life improved or been enriched by starting over?.
what do you cherish the most that would have been impossible, not allowed, or unthinkable as a jw?.
Ammo: thats an amazing story, I am really glad you are out of the dark place where you considered drastic action, and are seeing the good in your life.
service as a way of relieving our pain.... .
no, not field service.
i cant believe all the empty hours i spent knocking on doors, going where i was not welcome, not wanting to be there either, foisting magazines on people, occasionally studying with people in an effort to indoctrinate them.
Its a pyramid scheme!
because of "religious" differences, she now wants me to move out and "separate"...i said what biblical grounds does she have for her request?.
she couldnt respond...she said she'd rather be beaten up by me than have an "apostate" in the house.... this org definitely encourages conditional love.... i don't know what to do...by the way, we dont have children.
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Billy, thats the voice of reason I grew up with.
:)
in the chilling experience thread never knew asks a few questions about attending a meeting.. i thought i would dedicate a thread to answering this question- because my knowledge is a little outdated, please join in!.
1. you will be scrutinized for your appearance.
as a woman you are expected to wear a below knee length skirt or dress.
NeverKnew!
You did it!
Congratulations!
my experience, and shame on me.
in a snowstorm in pa on a highway, i ran out of gas.. this was one of many mistakes for the evening.
the general rule is that a person should stay in the car and wait for help.
I am very, very cautious, so no.
But cool thread.
