the bible says that "...it is impossible for god to lie.." (hebrews 6:18).
however, if causing a person to believe something which is not the truth is a lie, then that is exactly what paul said god did:.
and then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the lord jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
Way to go joseph.
I imagine even a scriptures such as the ot contains, where god asks for volunteers from his spirits to go against ahab. A spirit volunteers to lie to him through prophets. God blesses the lying spirit and sends it to do it's dirty work on ahab. Even scriptures such as this wouldn't change the pomegranit's belief that god don't lie. Amazing.
suprashy,.
you might be thinking of rev 1:7, which reads "and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him...".
and the dead were judged out of those things written in the scrolls according to their deeds.
Suprashy
From the bible there are many places where it shows jesus is jehovah (yahweh).
Isaiah 44:24, 45:5,7,12, 48:13 - Jehovah BY HIMSELF created everything
John1:3,4, Col1:15,16, Heb1:2,10 - Jesus created everything
Jesus = Jehovah Simple hey?
Of course, i should tell you that i don't believe much of the bible anymore. Nevertheless, if proving to the jws that the bible teaches this is important for you, i can send you some more.
the article has the front cover title of the golden rule is it still practical?.
the first paragraph says as follows....... those words were spoken nearly two thousand years ago by jesus christ in his famous sermon on the mount.
in the centuries since, much has been said and written about that simple statement.
ISP
Okay
as those of you who are aware of debi and i, we've had some serious problems.. today, i found out, "i" was the problem.
the book "obsessive love" by dr. susan forward, bantam books.
unfortunatly, this book describes me almost to a tee.
hey hey Recordcollector
Calm down. You aren't the only one. You aren't the first. There are support groups to help you cope.
You have already taken the first step, which is a big one: you admitted to yourself what you have. There are other steps you can take. There is another book which also is fairly good called facing love addiction by pia melody. Look up codependants anonamous (coda) or love addicts anonamous for your area. If there isn't a love addicts group, there probably is a coda group. Love addiction is like a subset of codependance. Their meetings really work. But it is hard work. Lots of meetings. Steps to take. It is best if you can take your girlfriend there too, so she comes to understand, and will feel less resentful.
If you have the money, you could look up a hypnotherapist who does regression work. Check out his beliefs before hand. Your condition probably originated from you family.
I know this stuff because i found out in may of this year that i have about the same thing. I also found out from a girlfreind.
Good luck
the september 8th, 2001 awake aimed to answer this question.
to say the least, this is a topic of great controversy and embarrassment for christains.. essentially, the awake said that god is unequivocally opposed to oppresive forms of slavery (as if any type of slavery is not considered oppresive to the one being enslaved) and that he demonstrated his opposition to such slavery by freeing the isrealites from the oppresive eyptians (but of course leaving slaves under more despotic conditions to fend for themselves).. they acknowledged that god allowed the isrealites to own slaves, but not opression of them (an example given was that the isrealites could take women as slaves, but could only have sex with them if they made them their wives.
in the "opressive" forms the women would have sex with their masters without the benefit of marriage and only for the masters sexual gratification.
'In the "opressive" forms the women would have sex with their masters without the benefit of marriage and only for the masters sexual gratification'
So when abraham, the father of all having faith, ie father of all in the new covenant, sexed his slave, he was oppressive, just out for gratification. Now i understand, one rule for abraham, father of the new covenant, another rule for everybody else.
They had another name for sex slaves back then...concubines. Soloman had thousands of sex slaves. You must remember, women were bought, sold, given just like cows or horses. Jehovah worshippers were so much better than other nations, weren't they?
the article has the front cover title of the golden rule is it still practical?.
the first paragraph says as follows....... those words were spoken nearly two thousand years ago by jesus christ in his famous sermon on the mount.
in the centuries since, much has been said and written about that simple statement.
Mustang
Wannahelp
The lower quote from all those other pagan scriptures isn't coming from the wt. It is from a different source. ISP gives the url for it. It is from moony site, you know, the unification church from korea, another cult.
the article has the front cover title of the golden rule is it still practical?.
the first paragraph says as follows....... those words were spoken nearly two thousand years ago by jesus christ in his famous sermon on the mount.
in the centuries since, much has been said and written about that simple statement.
ISP
That is a cool bit of info. What i find interesting is, going two steps up on the url and landing in the middle of sun nyung moon's unification church site, otherwise known as moonies. Is that where you are going? Fine. At least you havn't pushed their stuff here that i know of.
Satan
mom: the elders are led by god's holy spirit.
mom: don't go there andi.. andi: what?
mom: andi, i'm going to hang up the phone if you go there.. andi: mom!
Billygoat
I'm sorry for your pain. I guess i went through that too, but i feel almost nothing of it now.
If your little brother gets dfd, it may be the biggest favor they have ever done him. You can be there to help him and his girlfriend pick up the pieces, help him get deprogrammed. Then there will be two of you to work on your mother.
Wish you the best! Remember, you always have yourself.
cyrano wrote in.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14330&site=3.
watch tower bible & tract society clinical laboratory of brooklyn.
Mindchild
Wow!! Another society first! Imagine the spiritual cleanliness the elders will be able to enforce. Jehovahs blessings will squirt.. oops i mean pour.. anyway, they will be blessed.
No doubt after the bugs are worked out, the elders will be able to apply this machine to themselves. After all, even though they are allowed to have sex with their wives, they could be overdoing it, committing the sin of have 'sexual appetite'.
Psaise the lord..i mean jehovah!
my mom and dad have been married 57 years as of october 14th.
i called a couple of days after and asked them if they had done anything special.
my dad said, yeah, we didn't talk to each other all day.. my parents are so totally fked up.
Redhorsewoman
Imagine, an eternity of banality. Geeze, i used to look forward to that. Carefully taught to have no original idea. Not having one independant thought was the ideal. Anyone who has one is instantly snuffed under gods king dumb. Their god really wants robots.
