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  Our Anthony Morris III RANT!

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olkmv_4ajlq.

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  krejames

  I tried tweeting a link to Stonewall UK (@stonewalluk) but didn't get a response. Maybe if others send stuff their way, they'll take it more seriously.
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  Homosexuality, the GB and the Bible

  by Oubliette in

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  the recent topics addressing the shamefully bigoted talk by jw gb member, anthony morris, on the subject of homosexuality got me thinking.

  what the heck is up with the gb's obsession with this subject?.

  as far as i can determine, jesus never said a single thing in reference to homosexuality.

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  krejames

  @MeanMrMustard

  It's the comment "Being gay is wrong" that's a bit homophobic really. I appreciate a christian might have the view that men having sex with each other is wrong (that's the extent to which the bible addresses same gender sexual activity - it does not address homosexuality itself as a concept).

  To illustrate: "being gay is wrong" is like saying "being from Jamaica is wrong". If a christian goes with what the Bible has to say, the most they can say is that it's wrong for men to have intercourse with each other. (using the Jamaican example, it's like saying it's wrong to eat jerk chicken hehe).

  There is more to being homosexual than just having sex, though clearly that is a big part of it. What most fundamental religionists don't seem to recognise is that it's not so much about sex as it is about love, hopes and dreams and who you are

  If one wanted to be really pedantic and use JW reasoning: take a look at the Insight Book Vol 1, under Crime and Punishment, page 549, under the heading Major Crimes Under The Law. Here the WTS interprets the words used at Lev 18:22 as "sodomy" (no 11 in the list). If this interpretation of a man lying with another man as a woman etc is correct (I'm not convinced to be honest), then as far as homosexuality is concerned, the bible only condemns sodomy. (Paul's scripture at 1 Cor uses an adaption of the hebrew word used in Leviticus).

  The point being that the bible does not condemn homosexuality. That is why, to me as a gay man, Tony Morris' talk was so offensive when he ranted about many many many homosexuals being in the fashion industry. Does he not realise there are many many many homosexuals who are Jehovah's Witnesses? What message is he giving them apart from extra guilt and self loathing, knowing he thinks they are "disgusting"?

  (edited - far too many mistakes and typos, sorry!)
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  [w14 02/15] The "Photodrama of Creation" centenary article

  by ZionsWatchTower in

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  2. bible

  a recent article in the watchtower, february 15, 2014 addresses the centenary of the photo-drama of creation.

  then comment it on this 'remarkable work', but it will never be displayed by the watchtower again .... _______________________________.

  the 1890s introduced silent motion pictures to the public.

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  krejames

  I was about to respond to the following smug tweet by a dub:

  "eat your heart out Hollywood! Guess who made movies with colour & sound b4 you did" [followed by link to jw.org]

  I was going to answer "Le Vie Et La Passion de Jesus Christ 1903". Before doing so I thought I had better make sure I got my facts straight.

  My findings were that while the french film could lay claim to having sound (i.e. music) and so I could counter the Jdub's tweet on a minor technicality if I wished to, the film could not lay claim to having synchronised voice/speech. This was indeed a milestone that the Photo Drama of Creation can lay claim to. Even non witness film buffs acknowledge this (for example see this link to Film History Milestones).

  I'm not being an apologist. I just think that sometimes we are so enthusiastic to pick holes with the WTBS that we fall foul of exactly what we are accusing them of and can completely undermine our "apostate" credibility. I'm really not sure what the value of the claims made by OP of this thread is.

  Maybe a more interesting aspect of this is that it was the Bible Students who can lay claim to this milestone, not JWs. Considering that JWs apostasised from the Bible Students, they cannot really take the credit for this achievement.
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  Morris Homosexual Talk

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just watch morris' tight pants rant.

  lol!!!!!.

  i truly pity that man!

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  krejames

  I tweeted the link to @StoneWallUK and @guardiannews. Probably won't get looked at but worth a try.
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  Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

  by MrFreeze in

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  2. experiences

  i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

  i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

  i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

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  krejames

  I was told off in front of everyone in the middle of the KH for answering up. The previous weekend my restrictions were lifted (following a JC a few months earlier) and I was encouraged to answer in the Service Meeting, which I did. after the meeting an elder came up to me and angrily said "why did you answer up when you're not allowed to?" I wanted to die on the spot.

  Less serious but maybe more daft matters I was counselled on over the years:

  As a small child, listening to Abba songs ("they are immoral")

  Again when I was a kid, wearing a badge (I think it had come free with fizzy drink or something)

  Later on, wearing a beard (wasn't formally counselled but just got a few barbed comments hehe. Ironically they made me an MS even though I didn't shave it off)
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  Top evolution researchers agree: There is A Creator! The Watchtower is Right!

  by mariu in

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  2. friends

  okay, it's just one scientist: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201404/frederic-dumoulin-interview/.

  but he's a very eminent one!.

  for more than a decade, frederic dumoulin has worked in the field of pharmaceutical research ... studied the effects of medications and toxins on living creatures ... such design simply could not have evolved.

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  krejames

  Haha nice one ;)
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  Avoid or call them back?

  by Angus Beef in

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  daughter missed a call from an elder tonight...we've missed meetings for about a month now.

  she is dating a worldly guy and i'm sure someone has seen them together.

  makes us nervous and with us being fairly new to the fading facet... should she call or avoid.

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  krejames

  avoid avoid avoid. you don't owe them anything.
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  Relocation of UK Bethel

  by krejames in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard a rumour that the uk hq is moving from mill hill in london to a location in essex near chelmsford.

  explanation being that it's closer to the transport networks.

  anyone know anymore?.

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  krejames

  Wow. Odd to see the interior of a KH I am extremely familiar with in the newspaper! Whether I like it or not I am sure I will be hearing more about this from my local sources ;)
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  are there any Dubstep producers out there?

  by WillowTrees in

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  i'm trying to find someone that specifically makes dubstep with ableton 9. i have few questions if i could just ask them i'll be out of your hair but i'm really interested and hoping someone is out there that is willing to answer them.. .

  me.

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  krejames

  Not a dubsteb producer. and i use Cubase 7.5 not Ableton. EQing the lower frequencies is notoriously tricky. Take previous advice and look on Youtube for tutorials. Also if there are any specific dubstep producers you like, why not follow them on twitter or facebook and ask for their advice? I have found one or two producers in the genres I'm interested in (trance, electro, pop) are willing to share their expertise or even have their own Youtube channels and websites specifically for that purpose.
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  When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?

  by RottenRiley in

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  i don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.

  this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .

  we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.

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  krejames

  I agree with the advice that maybe the police need to be told. This guy needs help and support. He must be going through hell in his mind in order to do what he is doing.

  As for whether he is giving apostates a bad name. I can see your point of view. But for every fanatical apostate, there are, I'm sure, probably at least double the number of fanatical JWs. Maybe not resorting to such drastic measures, but enough to put normal people off JWs. I can think of several I have known over the years (you know, the type that take witnessing to the extreme, not respecting personal boundaries or body language that shows someone is REALLY not interested). Yes I think on balance, this guy's actions are not going to make much of a net effect except, as you say, give the local JWs a few war stories that will probably turn into urban legends. Still, let them have their fun. In the meantime this poor man needs help.