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  What SHOULD have woken you up ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for myself, there is an embarrassingly long list of things that really should really have woken me up, fully.

  it was a long process for me, as a mind controlled born in, things i simply did not agree with, or knew were downright wrong, that built and built, and, eventually i woke up, after 58 bloody years in !.

  but just mainly for fun, what should have woken you up ?.

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  Rivergang

  I identify with those who say that the penny should have dropped after the 1975 fiasco. Something about "hope springs eternal", I guess!
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  Guns and ammo selling out fast

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. social
  2. current

  i went to my local walmart today and most of the can goods and frozen foods were sold out.

  i did a web search from where i buy ammo from, lucky gunner, sg ammo, buds and others.

  bulk ammo is sold out just over night.

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  Rivergang

  Not at all surprised.

  Around here, at least, there has been panic buying of just about everything - with toilet paper being up near the top of the list. I guess if one is going to die, it might as well be with a clean backside!
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  That's all there ever was to being a Jehovah's Witness

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah's witnesses weren't jehovah's witnesses until 1931.until that year the people who had been hard-headed followers of end times false prophecies by william miller and seventh day adventists, more or less settled into following charisma-ballyhoo preaching by folks like "pastor" c.t.

  russell.what was it that attracts these people?

  it is a thin veneer of pious bible interpretation as a means of prepping for the end of the world.yep.

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  Rivergang

  Bullshit that sounds smart is addictive.
  

  Very well put! I must remember that line.
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  Algebra

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what the hell?

  it's after 4 am here in minnesota and my brain just won't shut down.

  of all things....in the middle of the night,algebra is bugging me.

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  Rivergang

  I was first introduced to algebra during the final few weeks of Primary School, and remember approaching the subject with a distinctive lack of enthusiasm!

  However, it was very much a case of just having to come to grips with the matter, particularly when deciding to learn the electrical trade. Take for example Ohm's Law, E = I.R. which is arguably the most fundamental calculation for electrical circuits.

  Once you encounter three-phase systems, it starts getting more involved; to calculate the power in a three-phase circuit the formula is P=√3.V.I.CosՓ

  Then, if ever involved with Electrical Test Work, it gets more involved again; an example being Wenner's Equation for calculating soil resistivity (a project our team is embarking on next week)

  
  

  I have been engaged in Electrical Testing since 1980, and can vouch for the fact that this field of the electrical trade calls for both the use of algebra, and a readiness to get ones "hands dirty".

  A good example of that is the project that I have just come back from, which was testing the protection relays at a manganese mine in northern Australia. At that site, everything is liberally coated in a sticky black dust from off the manganese ore. Not the sort of job you front up to in a white shirt, tie and three-piece suit!

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Dumb things JWs believed

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am not talking about the usual crap from the cult writings, but rather things idiots believed on their own.

  maybe even helped on by the cult but not directly taught.

  i knew an old man now long gone kunde in michigan.

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  Rivergang

  In the early 1970s, Nobel Prize winner Dr. Linus Pauling made some extraordinary (and unsubstantiated) claims about Vitamin C and the common cold virus. As quoted in that scientific journal Awake, Dr. Pauling is said to have recommended the consumption of mega-doses of this vitamin to "cure" the common cold, and the regular consumption of smaller (but still heavy) measures of Vitamin C to prevent ever contracting that disease.

  Following this, there were those in the JW camp who took it to mean that "The Society endorses Linus Pauling", and commenced to pump themselves full of heavy doses of Vitamin C. In fact, excessive consumption of Vitamin C - certainly of the levels "recommended" by Linus Pauling - tends to the development of kidney stones (I knew of at least one case in which that happened).

  Aside from the Vitamin C cult, an article in that other scientific journal, Golden Age (forerunner of Awake), once expounded the benefits of reverse-flushing oneself with the garden hose!
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  Have you ever? (Suffered a Great Disappointment?)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you ever suffered a great disappointment?.

  well, meet william miller!______.

  time: 1782 (after the american revolution and before the war of 1812).

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  Rivergang

  Very interesting; thanks for posting this information. Proof (if it were needed) that merely having a ready answer for everything doesn't necessarily mean a person is right!
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  Would You Ever Go Back To The Witnesses??

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every once in a while you hear people say they actually “miss” their old witness friends and or family.

  some would have even stayed in the organization if they became a bit more liberal and open minded.

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  Rivergang

  They say "any port in a storm", but that would have to be a category 5 cyclone!

  Edited to mean "No Bloody Way!"
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  Amazing Read,Check this out!

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  currently reading : 30 years a watchtower slave.

  cannot put it down.. this book pre-dates ray franz book "crisis of conscience", written from early 20th century, shortly after the jehovah's witnesses were formed.

  the author describes the original true background of the watchtower society as a multi-million dollar publishing company.

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  Rivergang

  When I first took a furtive look through Schnell's 30 Years a Watchtower Slave, I wasn't that impressed with it. He seemed to make a lot of claims, but offered very little in the way of evidence.

  Those in the "territory" who cited Schnell's work all seemed to have that wild-eyed fanatical look about them, and that, too, seemed to be the tone of the book. It came over as being written by an extremely bitter ex-member who just wanted to "vent his spleen", as the saying goes.

  Part of this could well be the more forthright manner of speaking that is common in eastern Europe, but still, I was never left with the impression that here was a great work of literature!
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  I can just imagine the hype that is going on in Australia about how close armageddon is now with all of these bushfires occurring.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it brings to mind my niece when she see`s how dry the countryside is ,how armageddon must be so close..

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  Rivergang

  According to the director of NSW Rural Fire Service, Shane Fitzsimmons, there has been no prohibition placed by "Greenies" (or anybody else) on the use of controlled burn-offs to achieve fuel reduction. (See the following link).

  https://7news.com.au/news/bushfires/fire-experts-rubbish-claims-that-hazard-reduction-failure-is-to-blame-for-crisis-c-639568
  

  Rather, Fitzsimmons points out that of late, there have been few opportunities to safely carry out such controlled fuel-reduction burning operations. Simply put, what he terms "fire weather" now occurs more frequently, is of a greater severity than beforehand, and forms a season that lasts far longer than once was the case.

  Furthermore, he reminds the reader of several other facts.

  • One being that fuel reduction is not a "silver bullet". While it can reduce the severity of a bushfire, it will not prevent one from happening.
  • The other point he mentions is something that has long been known to forest fire fighters in Australia; namely, that in extreme bushfire conditions, a disastrous fire can still be sustained by very little fuel. In those situations, fuel reduction operations alone are not enough to prevent damaging fires.

  Coming from somebody who is involved almost on a daily basis with controlling bushfires, the observations made by Shane Fitzsimmons ought to be taken seriously.
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  Were You Willing To Die For Jehovah?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we were supposed to be dedicated unconditionally to jehovah god.

  we were willing to be persecuted to the death if need be.

  if it came to taking a blood transfusion or dying, we were loyal to jehovah and would be a martyr for god.

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  Rivergang

  Not proud of the fact now, but in the day, I reckon I would have.

  Regarding the blood transfusion issue, though, I completely swallowed the WTS line that it was somehow "unnecessary", and that there were in fact other alternatives.

  Bloody hell!

  (If nothing else, their propaganda program certain worked very well in those years of the late 1970s / early 1980s).