So much for “The Prince of Peace!”
Rivergang
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The violent "My book of bible stories" not for kids!
by Witness 007 ini once left a copy with the kids of my return visit.
the next time i came she returned it to me saying it was discusting and not something kids should be reading.
i was shocked since i learnt to read using this book.
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Should Difference of Opinion Be Squelched On Sites Such As FB or Twitter?
by minimus ini think that for the most part, dissenting views should be allowed to exist because of free speech principles.
one person may strongly feel that something is true while someone else may present “facts” that support the opposing view.
when that is the case, healthy discussion is mostly productive.
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Rivergang
There is, of course, much misinformation circulating on the internet, and particularly on social media.
Hence the recent call by the Australian Medical Association for a media campaign to correct this - at least as it applies to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Action needed to tackle health misinformation on internet, social media | AMA
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If The Jehovah's Witnesses Stole Your Past...Don't Let Them Steal Your Future!
by The Bethelite inyes, many here have lost many years of life due to being infected by this cult like religion.
for many it is very hard to let go of that life and those wasted years.. of course people need time to heal and this web site is a great place to do that, swap war stories and commiserate.. i was in for over 50 years.
so of course it will be with me for the rest of my life.
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Rivergang
Well said!
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What Will You Be Doing On New Year’s Eve?
by minimus ini can’t remember the last time i stayed in on new year’s eve.
every year we went out and made this date a real party.
it was a celebration that included a night out, a stay in a hotel , eating, drinking and dancing to live music!.
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Rivergang
Sinking a couple of cold ones, while waiting to watch the fireworks on TV
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New Years Eve
by wozza inhere it is ,the end of a year and a new one starting tomorrow.. i do not want to reflect on the bad the year brought us ,but thankfully i will move into the new year glad that i am still here to enjoy the good things in life that are still here .. though i've had some personal bad stuff happening like all do from time to time i did have things to be thankful for ,like my loving partners support and a wonderful christmas visit with my daughters family and grand children.. i had to plan my driving trip to queensland in between covid shutdowns but this made it more exciting and helped me to see i should not take family for granted.. so i'm thankful for the good the year brought and yet sorrowful for those in the world who had bad things happen.. that's the stuff of life and sometimes it's worse for a while and then change brings better times.. i don't believe the strike of clock will bring change but what we do in our lives will ,i've made bad decisions that have lbrought life long change for bad but i have made some for good.
some things from outside will bring change ,like covid ,but it is how we handle things that really matters for the future.. the one big thing i am thankful for is getting insight from this wonderful site that helped me see what the disgusting watchtower org is in reality , and over the years have seen thru others here how they broke the clutches of a cult of liars.. so thank you all and hope that the future brings some happiness as well ,agong with the sorrow and especially to all the ozzies on here.
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Rivergang
Smiddy3
Too right!
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President Trump has tested positive for COVID-19
by Funky inhttps://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-and-first-lady-have-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/ar-bb19cg4u?li=bbnb7kz.
given his age and weight, he is at very high risk of needing to be hospitalized.. trump is arguably the most well-protected man on earth, and he got it.. people.....wear a fruggin' mask!.
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Rivergang
Not at all surprised. Ultraviolet radiation has long been used (along with other measures) in water treatment plants , for the production of safe drinking water.
Also, ultraviolet-generating LEDs have been readily available for over 30 years. (Not just as industrial products, either - Dick Smith Electronics in Australia used to market these in hobby kits.
I guess it was only a matter of time before somebody put 2 and 2 together; both in developing a practical method of sterilising air by means of UV radiation, and in using solid state components to achieve this.
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Was Jesus Born on December 25th?
by Sea Breeze inwe were told by watchtower that no way jesus was born on dec. 25th.
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what do you think now?.
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Rivergang
I'm out in it twice a week right now for my son's soccer games.
We are out till 9-10 pm
Is that all?
We are not talking here about a few hours watching soccer games (which finish before 10pm), before heading indoors to a warm bed. That is quite a different situation to sleeping out on bare ground, all night and every night, during which the pre-dawn grass temperatures often approach freezing.
The Met Service's 24 hour temperature charts only confirm what any of us who have worked night shifts in outdoor conditions (and in a variety of different climates) have already learned from experience
- i.e. The coldest temperatures of the day occur just after first light of a morning.
Furthermore, its effect on human physiology is exarcerbated by the body's Circadian Rhythms, which are at their lowest ebb around 2:30 am. Again, shiftworkers quickly find out all about that phenomenon.
To use the old expression, "You ain't seen nothing yet" when you call it a night before 10pm.
Of course, all the foregoing assumes that the climate of Israel was the same 2000 years ago as it is now.
In fact, Climate Change is not at all a recent phenomenon.
Certain passages of scripture, together with archeological research strongly suggest that Israel's climate was once both cooler and wetter than it is now. After the time of Christ, a process of gradual desertification set in. This was hastened by the denuding of Israel's once extensive forest cover - a process that continued into the early 20th Century. (Removal of the forest cover is a near-certain way of reducing rainfall, as they are presently learning in the Amazon Basin).
It is assuming a lot to take for granted that Bethlehem's climate was the same then as it is now. In all likelihood, those shepherds the Gospels talk about would have encountered colder and wetter conditions than are now the rule.
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Was Jesus Born on December 25th?
by Sea Breeze inwe were told by watchtower that no way jesus was born on dec. 25th.
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what do you think now?.
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Rivergang
Mid-winter grazing of livestock in open fields is one thing (that happened all the time where I grew up.
However, sleeping out on the bare ground is quite another matter, when the ground temperature can often be 4 to 5 degrees Celsius less than the “standard” air temperature - and thus near to freezing.
Bloody hell - have you ever tried it!
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Was Jesus Born on December 25th?
by Sea Breeze inwe were told by watchtower that no way jesus was born on dec. 25th.
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what do you think now?.
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Rivergang
According to the website www.weather-and-climate.com, average December temperatures in Bethlehem range between a daily high of 14 degrees C and an overnight low of 7. Also, its climate is influenced by the Mediterranean effect, which produces summer drought and winter rain. As a consequence, one fifth of its annual rainfall (111 mm) falls during December, resulting in an average of six rainy days for that month.
Latitude is not the only thing which determines climate. Other factors are also at play, including altitude. Bethlehem is 775 metres (2,543 feet) above sea level - something which needs to be considered when comparing it with other places of similar latitude. Reflecting its higher altitude, some of Bethlehem's precipitation falls as snow, and on average the month of December sees one day of snowfall.
While some may describe an overnight low of 7 Deg.C (44.6 Deg.F) as being "mild", it is hardly conducive to sleeping out under the stars - particularly if there is also a good chance of precipitation, whether in the form of rain or snow.
Furthermore, these "average" air temperatures are measured under standard conditions - inside an enclosure known as a "Stevenson Screen", which is mounted four feet above the ground. This temperature can be quite different from the ground - or "grass" - temperature, which is more applicable to anybody camping out in the open (as the shepherds of Jesus's time were described as doing).
In terms of both latitude and altitude, Bethlehem is similar to Australia's New England Plateau region. Around the towns of Glen Innes and Inverell, one does not willingly camp out in the open during the southern hemisphere's equivalent of December!
Although extremely distrustful of anything the JWs / WTS have ever said, on this particular matter, they way well have a point!
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Was Jesus Born on December 25th?
by Sea Breeze inwe were told by watchtower that no way jesus was born on dec. 25th.
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what do you think now?.
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Rivergang
Who cares?