Rivergang

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  What Type of Future do YOU look forward to?

  by Revealed in

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  or dread?.

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  Now What
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  Kinky details to JW boys death

  by Kep in

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  this boys disappearance was big news in nz.. searches were done a number of times in the area.. finally his body was found.. this article has just appeared with some rather unusual details surrounding his disappearance.. http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1159345a11,ff.html.

  you might have to key in the full address to open the article, but i've pasted it as well.. teen went missing after prank .

  07 april 2002 .

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  I know that Mehrten bloody lot, and their imagined superiority.The less said the better!
  
  
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  The "Trinity" is not Biblical.

  by Revealed in

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  simple.. you cannot find the word there (or many of the comical variations such as: a triune godhead, the triunity, co-equal god beings, godhead, a hypostaic union, divine essences, divine natures, a god-the-son, a god-the-ghost, hypostasis, homoousios, perichoresis , a godman, omnipresence, incarnation, a god who is a sacred mystery, a god 'in three persons', dual natures, a reincarnate god, a first person of the trinity, a second person of the trinity, a third person of the trinity, godness, a tri-unity or a multipersonal god), or any of the so-mentioned aspects.. jehovah identified himself (not 'themselves") as on one god, as did jesus and all the prophets.

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  so, come, let us know of the simple twists of the clergy!.

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  Rivergang

  “The trinity is not biblical”. This is an argument that has been going on for some 1500 years, and unlikely to be resolved anytime soon!
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  Are you open to having a count as to how many ex-JW`s on this site are vaccinated x2 jabs. ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i`ll go first ,i have my vaccinated 2 jabs for the elderly.. if i`m not around in the next 3 months you will know why ..

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  Rivergang

  Over the last 18 months, I have been working for extended periods in another country. Since the middle of this year, it’s entry requirements have included mandatory vaccination for COVID-19. So yes, I have received both doses of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine.
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  Do any of you ex JW`s ever feel ashamed or embarrassed to admit you were once a JW? To your now friends / associates ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  i ask this now because i have been living in this town for the past 14 years and the circle of friends i have now i have never let on i am an ex jw.. i`m talking about 30-50 people at least.. not that the subject has ever really come up , but i think they would be shocked / amazed that i was a ( i hate this word ) a "devout" jw for 32 years going around knocking on peoples doors trying to convert them to the religion .. yet every now and again i get tempted to.. how say you ?.

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  Very, very few of my associates know of my JW past. It is something that I now try to put behind me and would much rather just forget about.

  The trouble is, it keeps coming back to bite one on the @$$!
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  The Bible has been described as being made up of "66 Fairy Tales, written by 40 different authors in three languages, on three different continents and over approximately 1600 years".

  After my reading of the Bible, the only part of the above description that I have issues with is the piece about "three different continents" (with the Sinai Peninsula being to the east of the commonly recognised border between Africa and Asia) !
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  I understand your separating yourselves from the Org...BUT~

  by Revealed in

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  ...why have you left the god and his son?.

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  And I have read the bloody thing from cover to cover - which proved to be the greatest disappointment of the lot!
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  Three children families stop step decline in Mormon membership

  by joe134cd in

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  i just posted this on a seperate thread, but i think it deserves its own thread.

  this is with regard to the pew survey that states “2 out of three 3 born into the jehovah’s witness faith.

  will not remain in the faith as adults.”.

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  The JW criteria for defining "membership" is rather more rigid than that used by the LDS, or just about any other religious group. That is, they define as "members" only those officially reporting "field service" on a regular basis (however inaccurate those official figures may be).

  However, what a person might enter on a census questionnaire is quite a different matter.

  For example, on one occasion whilst myself engaging in the "field service", I recall meeting a couple who assured us that they, too, were Jehovahs Witnesses. It turned out that several years previously these two had undergone a "Bible Study" with the JWs. They appeared to believe everything they had been told by that pioneer couple who "studied" with them - although their level of understanding may have been rather limited. However, they were never baptised, and certainly never attended any meetings, let alone engage in that JW trademark activity, knock on people's doors! Yet, it is entirely possible that they (and all other such persons) would - if ever asked - describe their religion as "Jehovahs Witness". In fact, the first time I ever filled out a census form, I myself gave my religion as Jehovahs Witness - even though at that stage I was only somebody's "Bible Study" (and would have been lucky to have attended more than about three or four meetings at the Kingdom Hall).

  I rather suspect that the data used by the Mormon / LDS church to compile its official membership numbers shares greater similarities to that collected in a census than it does to anything else.

  Expressed another way, it you were to compare the official membership numbers of the JWs with the official membership numbers of the Mormons / LDS, then you wouldn't exactly be comparing "apples with apples". Those two religious groups apply completely criteria to define what it means to be an "official" member.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

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  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  I guess that they got me at a vulnerable time in my life.

  I think that that has often got a lot to do with it - it certainly was in my case.

  Another factor that may come in is one often displayed by victims of any sort of a scam. After investing so much already in what is now plainly a scam, some victims are still reluctant to pull out "just in case it might be correct after all".

  
  
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  King Richard

  by Rattigan350 in

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  2. entertainment

  there is this new movie out called "king richard" staring will smith playing serena and venus williams father.

  i don't know much about this, but i heard that they were raised by jw parents.

  how does that factor into the movie and their growing up aspiring tennis stars?.

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  Rivergang

  He should know, he cheated on two witness wives, gets drunk regularly, and embezzled thousands from his business, and cheated others out of their pay for working for him.

  And there was a time when I sincerely used to believe that "Our church don't do that sort of thing".

  Mug!