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  How will history treat Judge Rutherford?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mark jones writes:.

  how will history treat joseph rutherford?.

  like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.

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  Rivergang

  How will history treat Judge Boozerford Rutherford?

  As just one more of a very long line of religious conmen, I would imagine.
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  The First Holocaust

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.

  the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.

  as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.

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  Rivergang

  ..based on an even older Sumerian flood myth

  As an aide, giving the lie to the idea that Babylon is the “source of all false doctrine.”
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  The First Holocaust

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.

  the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.

  as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.

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  Rivergang

  It is always good to get the Jewish perspective of the Old Testament - and particularly for those who would allow themselves to be bent out of shape by a collection of Middle Eastern folklore.
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  The First Holocaust

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please, please ignore all the scientific impossibilities here, that's not what this topic is about.. let's make the assumption as many christians do that the bible is historically accurate.

  the noachian flood actually happened a little less than 4,500 years ago after which eight adults stepped off the ark to repopulate the planet.. that means that approximately 60 million lives had been snuffed out, a holocaust by anyone's estimation.

  as if that isn't horrific enough just think about the babies, toddlers and young children god killed.. he drowned all of them, every single one.

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  Not a particularly attractive being, that God of the Old Testament.
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  Enjoy hope without disappointment

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  todays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.

  they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.

  i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.

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  I’m just a busted-@$$ electrician, but still find it rather hard to imagine how broken hopes cannot possibly lead to anything else but disappointment. And by crikey, that JW/WTS lot have sure served up lots of those! (1914, 1925, 1975 to name but a few).
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  Enjoy hope without disappointment

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  todays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.

  they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.

  i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.

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  … which is better than no hope.

  More like “Give them a Pie in the Sky, so they’ll tolerate sh#t for the present”.

  Typical Cargo Cult mentality.

  
  
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  FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!

  by steve2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!

  magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!

  magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.

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  Rivergang

  Reading Awake and Watchtower indeed would qualify a person for a university degree - from Tasmania’s University of Lower Crackpot. I’m sure that after completing that course of study, they would happily award you a Bachelor of Stupidity!
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  The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

  yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

  to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

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  I’ve said it before, and will say it again - one hell of a lot of commentary, with precious little in the way of facts to work off.

  (I.e. Those bloody inconvenient details known as “facts”).
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  How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

  ) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

  btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

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  That Pan-Babylonialism is 24 Carat pseudoscience comes as no surprise!

  Also during the same “Free Home Bible Study” phase, I remember being assured that all the world’s major languages originated in the ancient city of Babylon. To put matters very diplomatically, this is simply not the case!

  Little about the religion of Babylon was exactly original, either. Most of it had been inherited from the earlier Sumerian civilisation.

  Hardly the birthplace of either the world’s languages or its religions!
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  How can Babylon the Great be the WORLD of false religion?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (revelation 17:5) “babylon the great, the mother of the prostitutes (plural!

  ) and of the disgusting things of the earth.”.

  btg is spotlighted as being the principal "disgusting thing" which affects christians & christianity, with other lesser "prostitutes" in the background... (revelation 18:4) “get out of her, my people, (christians) if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.".

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  Rivergang

  During the "Free Home Bible Study" phase of my Indoctrination into the JWs, I recall being assured that "all the world's false religions" could in fact be traced to the ancient city of Babylon.

  There was indeed a school of thought called "Pan-Babylonialism", which had a certain following around the turn of the 20th Century. However, that idea has long since been discarded - almost to the point of being considered pseudoscience. There is also Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons, which advances similar ideas, but which was soundly debunked even during Hislop's own lifetime (circa. the mid-19th Century). Just the same, the JWs used to treat that work of Alexander Hislop as having almost the final say on the matter!