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  Cowardly Change of Policy in the UK

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the britain branch has called a confidential meeting tonight with a controversial announcement.

  the message is of such import that it was transmitted by word of mouth only, nothing in writing, ears only.

  a decision made by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses and transmitted orally down the chain of command, a decision proving the leadership of this spirit lead body.. the gdpr laws in the uk have been interpreted by wt lawyers so that all record keeping relating to the public has been banned, telephone witnessing and letter writing also, forbidden.. now in a show of supreme bravado the publishers are to be informed that if they wish to, if they dare, they may write to people at their own risk.. bear in mind, nothing is in writing.

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  Rivergang

  Yeah - there is nothing like wanting to have it both ways. All too typical of that bloody lot!
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  “The Asiatic Mind” — Watchtower 1956

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  searching instances of the word “simplify” in watchtower literature, i stumbled across this.. the asiatic mind finds it difficult to accept new ways, to simplify and to make advantageous changes.

  they fear conversion and dislike others’ offering them help.

  many continually live in a realm of unreality and refuse to face modern facts of life.

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  Rivergang

  The term "Asiatic mind" is so general as to be almost meaningless.

  Asia's western border is the line formed by the Ural Mountains, then the eastern shores of the Black Sea, Bosphorus, Dardanelles, Mediterranean Sea and Red Sea. Its northern border is the Arctic Ocean, western border the North Pacific Ocean and the southern border the Indian Ocean. Its south-eastern extremities get really interesting, forming a border with the Melanesian islands of New Guinea, and coming to within only a few hundred miles of the northern coastline of Australia.

  Encompassed within that area is a very diverse group of peoples, very hard to generalise about. For example, the Asian continent includes the Middle East, where the Jewish people originated from (if not where most of them now live). Few would deny that the Jews have produced more than their share of innovative persons!
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  “The Asiatic Mind” — Watchtower 1956

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  searching instances of the word “simplify” in watchtower literature, i stumbled across this.. the asiatic mind finds it difficult to accept new ways, to simplify and to make advantageous changes.

  they fear conversion and dislike others’ offering them help.

  many continually live in a realm of unreality and refuse to face modern facts of life.

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  Rivergang

  Yet one more example of WT pseudo-science.

  Reading WT literature is said by some to educate a person to at least the level of a bachelor degree.

  A bachelor degree at which university, though? The only one I know of that fits the bill is Tasmania's University of Lower Crackpot.
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  Tony Morris was right

  by wolverines in

  1. social
  2. current

  i have no love loss for the gb or religion and this is not an apologist attempt.

  in fact i hate the religion and the gb.

  but i watch night after night young kids who's minds have been corrupted by the propaganda and dogma that modern college's are teaching them.

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  Rivergang

  The expression "They have broken out in a fresh place" comes immediately to mind here.

  As others have already noted, not much has changed from what that lot were sounding off about 50 years ago. Having worked extensively with university graduates over these last eight years, though, I haven't seen too many waving red flags and singing the The Internationale. Neither have those I deal with shown any difficulties figuring out whether they are Arthur or Martha! In fact, without exception, all the graduate engineers who have come through our office have been quite conservative types.

  Once again whenever TMIII opens his mouth, it would require something the size of a Caterpillar 992 front end loader to clear away all the BS that results!
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  Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.

  with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.

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  Joey,

  I have certainly seen that - some bumbling amateur with a 9mm automatic.

  The only safe person within this guy's vicinity was the one he was trying to shoot!
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  Guns...Are You For or Against Legally Owning Them?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a surge going on of people buying guns, especially first time buyers.

  with talk of police defunding and rioting in the neighborhoods, some people want to protect themselves.. do you support owning and using a gun if needed?.

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  Rivergang

  I have never had any issue with the legal ownership of firearms.

  Having grown up around farms, I learned at a very young age to shoot with a .22 calibre rifle. This was out of sheer necessity, as pest control was (and still is) a major problem in that district. Furthermore, my father worked for a time as a professional hunter. As a consequence, there were always firearms and ammunition readily at hand around the house. Later on, I took up small bore shooting as a hobby - something I have only given away in recent years, after my eyesight deteriorated too badly to be able to continue with it. (All the blessings of growing old!)

  Just a word, though, about that article that appeared in The Federalist:

  https://thefederalist.com/2018/04/13/britains-knife-control-bad-parody-gun-control/

  The homocide situation London compared to New York is in fact rather more complicated than the way it has been presented by this source. It is true that during the month of February 2018, for the first time ever, London reported more homicides than did New York City -15 versus 14 (a fact widely reported on the social media sites). However, what The Federalist did not report that this trend was very much an abberation. For example, the three months January to March of 2018 saw 57 homicides in New York City, while London reported 45 such crimes during the same time period. Furthermore, by the end of June of that year, New York had recorded 141 homicides for the year, almost double London's total of 80 for the same six months.

  Consistently over the years, New York's homicide rate has significantly exceeded that of London, as witness last year (2019); in which New York recorded 311 homicides, while London saw 149. Given the two cities have similar sized populations, that makes New York's homicide rate double that of London (despite what that article in The Federalist would have us believe).

  While having never visited either city, I have had more than a few encounters with serious crime. For quite a number of years, I was an expatriate worker in a certain Third World country, whose capital city is recognised as being one of the more dangerous in the world. Furthermore, many of its outlying districts - such as where I was based - are even more lawless. There are in fact large rural areas that are scarcely under any form of government control. (To a degree, this was almost inevitable, given the way that that country was propelled literally from out of the Stone Age and into the mid-20th Century in just a few short years). Along with almost all other Expatriates who have ever lived there, I could spend an entire afternoon recounting anecdotes that include such subjects as tribal fighting, armed hold ups, terrorism, political assassinations, mass murders and many other such events:

  - But all coming under the general classification "In that particular country, the truth is stranger than fiction!"
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  When did WT lose the spirit?

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at what time would you say that the watch tower schema lost the spirit?.

  like the ancient nation of israel which struggled maintaining divine blessing due to a long series of grave errors that eventually culminated in definitive loss... how and when did watch tower lose the spirit?.

  can we pinpoint a time or event?.

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  TD

  from a purely pragmatic standpoint, the pinnacle for the JW's occurred during the age of the "New World Society" during the 50's and 60's.
  

  I believe you are correct, together with the reasons you advanced for saying so.

  Other than that, I cannot quite get my head around the OP's position of somehow pretending they ever had a "spirit" that could ever be lost in the first place!

  
  
  
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  Now we have a Mary Trump book coming out ...

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.

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  other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.

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  LHG,

  Like it or not, what is also at stake here is leadership of the Western World. That makes it inevitable that this subject will draw comment from beyond the borders of the USA. As you have noted, not all this commentary is necessarily informed.

  HOWEVER:

  Yes, it’s sad that these two people are supposedly the ‘best’ America has to offer.
  

  That fact, at least, is fairly obvious to most onlookers!
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  Riots one reason to own an AR15 and several 30 round or 100 round mags.

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. current

  i hear this from the leftist idiots all the time.

  if someone breaks into your home 6 bullets are enough.

  well if its a one of i would argue that i still my need more round for even just one person.

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  LongHairGal,

  I never said I live in a “bad” area, but rather one that many would describe as somewhat “disadvantaged.”

  Bloody hell, there is a difference!
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  Riots one reason to own an AR15 and several 30 round or 100 round mags.

  by phoenixrising in

  1. social
  2. current

  i hear this from the leftist idiots all the time.

  if someone breaks into your home 6 bullets are enough.

  well if its a one of i would argue that i still my need more round for even just one person.

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  Rivergang

  Curious Mind, I too have a rather “curious mind” as to why the difference between here (Australia) and the USA. I live in what might be termed a “disadvantaged” neighbourhood:

  i.e. A low socio-economic area, with a significant “indigenous” population and a large number of immigrants (a real “spot the Aussie” type suburb).

  Despite all this, there are few serious law and order issues - and without the population being armed to the teeth.

  By contrast, we are being told on this forum that in the USA, one is not safe unless fully equipped with an AR15, 30 round magazines and (presumably) enough ammunition to fight a small war. How that situation came about would make interesting reading!