Rivergang

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  Andrew Tate on the news

  by slimboyfat in

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  i hadn’t heard of this guy, andrew tate, until a few days ago, when he was mentioned on novara media (which is practically the only news i watch).

  then i saw a clip with him where he explained why he moved to romania: he said he ‘likes romania because the police are corrupt and you can pay them off’.

  (practically a direct quote) i thought to myself at the time that sounded a bit complacent!

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  Rivergang

  Hopefully, this might cut the arrogant twerp’s ego down to size for him.
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  Just courius, some questions about the past

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  curious.

  time goes by so fast.

  who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

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  Rivergang

  Ding,

  Raymond Franz said as much in Crisis of Conscience. In the preparation of the WTS’s 1971 work Aid to Bible Understanding, he was given full access to all the reference works which the Society has at its disposal. Many of these had been written by scholars of the various “churches of Christendom”, and in so many instances, it was exactly as you describe. That is, what the JWs called “new light”, Christendom had known all along.
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  Just courius, some questions about the past

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  curious.

  time goes by so fast.

  who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?

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  Rivergang

  Enoughisenough summed it up perfectly.

  Furthermore, it was very sneaky how they introduced the first change about “The Generation”. On the inside cover of Awake always used to be a statement about the “generation which remembered 1914”. At some point in the mid to late 1970s, that wording was altered to the effect of the “generation born during or before 1914”.
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  What really is UN doing with religions?

  by Kosonen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  occult un forces seek to hijack religion for globalism.

  https://thenewamerican.com/occult-un-forces-seek-to-hijack-religion-for-globalism/it does not look like religions dominate un but the other way around.

  journalist alex newman gives a totally different picture about the real state of affairs.

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  Rivergang

  Perhaps affiliated in some way with the Rev. Harley Davidson’s Church of the Righteous Hog?
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Rivergang

  Like some people evolved from apes.
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  Can the World Cup Really Unite People? - What Does the Bible Say?

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seriously....this is an article on jw.borg.. really?

  football - or soccer - and bible?.

  these guys have really lost the plot.. i can promise you that bible does not say a flying flaming about world cup.. however, as much as people want them to, these events cannot provide lasting unity.

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  “What does the Bible say?”

  Don’t mean to be rude, but really, who gives a £#ck!
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  1969 Awake on Education - A Sore Spot for Me

  by NotBlind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my father would have started college 49 years ago this week.

  about three months earlier, the week he graduated high school, the awake!

  magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers.

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  Rivergang

  I, too, was directly affected by that bloody piece of so-called “guidance”. Several years back, when I confronted some of them about this who were operating an apathy cart, one cheeky bitch had the effrontery to try and tell me that I “was not old”. At 67, I was exactly the average male life expectancy for this country, when that article was published.
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  Myth of 1914

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wt engages in history revisionism when insisting the world changed overnight in 1914. in fact the european power struggles that came to a head were centuries old.

  millions of lives had been lost in the wars of the 19th century, with the world a powder keg the years prior to the assassination of franz ferdinand in june 1914 which is often said, albeit rather arbitrarily, as the start of the war that escalated over the next 4 years into the great war.

  take a look at these two pages and ask if the wt's interpretation of history seems accurate to you.

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  Rivergang

  While not always agreeing with the claims / accusations that W. Schnell made in his 1956 work 30 Years a Watchtower Slave; what he said about 1914 was probably correct. That is, the WTS hyped up that date to take full advantage of the upheaval which the aftermath of "The Great War" left across Europe.

  Never mind that earlier wars in Europe (such as those during the time of Napoleon) had also caused major mayhem and upheaval. By 1914, those conflicts were no longer within living memory - and 100 years ago (well before the age of the Internet) there was no simple way of researching such events.
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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  Rivergang

  As the old saying goes " To try is to risk failure - but to fail to try is to guarantee it".

  Here in the JWs you have a religious group that doesn't even recommend you give it a try - whether it be education, a decent job, a retirement plan, life insurance or similar. (I well recall the old, canned remark that used to be thrown around whenever the subject of life insurance came up - i.e. "The Kingdom is my life insurance policy".)

  These attitudes are certainly reinforced when their young people grow up being told things like that they will "never grow old in this system". Furthermore - when the R&F are continually being reminded that the world will be conquered "in the 1970s", or that the "preaching work" will be completed "This century" (i.e. the 20th), or at the very least it certainly will be all over "soon" - these ideas become well and truly entrenched. Of course, those that then suffer the worst from these unwise actions are the most conscientious of the Jehovahs Witnesses - like the 55-year-old mentioned in that earlier example.

  THAT is what it has to do with religion - or this one, at least!
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  WT Ruining Members' Futures

  by HiddlesWife in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.

  this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.

  she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.

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  Rivergang

  Religion can certainly “get” a person like booze can, that is for sure!