That would be one of the very few times they have taken any responsibility whatsoever for those debacles. Previously, the “rank and file” got the blame for “reading too much in” to what the WTS had said.
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Jeffrey Jackson: Too much excitement got in the way for the ''false dates''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inannual meeting 2019—talks and 2020 year textthe governing body members are nothing but a bunch of weasels.
here is a talk by jeffrey jackson on how the governing body ''the slave class'' has remained spiritually awake over 100 years and alerted its members.. he looks back on the ''faithful and discreet slaves'' false dates over the 100 years: '' but at times, we look back over 100 years, and there were times they got excited about a certain year or time, and the end didn't come at that time.''.
he makes the comparison between the ''slave class ( who disappointed others when the end didn't come ) to a barking watchdog ( who in his enthusiasm barks at nothing in the middle of the night and wakes up the owner).
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Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?
by Sea Breeze inrichard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .
'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.
'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.
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Rivergang
When it is all said and done, for most people in this part of the world, Christmas is just another excuse to get on the booze.
ie. Engage in practices which predate Christianity by a long shot.
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Holy barbasol Batman! Beards are now allowed!
by nowwhat? inlatest gb update.
only took them 20 years to see beards are acceptable in society.
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Rivergang
Talk about man-made rules.
Even in countries such as Papua New Guinea, in which beards are completely acceptable, the JWs maintained this prohibition.
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Life in a spiritual (UN)-paradise
by Reasonfirst ina long, long time ago, when i was young, i became a 'special' pioneer.
it meant that i had to spend 150 hours a month, and i received a small allowance.
i was then assigned to a small country congregation, in western nsw (australia).
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Rivergang
It wasn’t the JWs who invented the idea of a “spiritual paradise” (if not it’s actual wording). Some of the more austere of the “mainstream” churches are quick to cite the “spiritual” benefits - particularly when the material (and other) “blessings” become rather scarce!(This matter is well described by the New Zealand author John A Lee, in his autobiography Children of the Poor. In the southern city of Dunedin, which was established by puritanical Scottish settlers, the Presbyterian Church provided at best miserly material aid to the poor. However, they were always quick to emphasise the “spiritual” benefits that their church provided.) -
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Life in a spiritual (UN)-paradise
by Reasonfirst ina long, long time ago, when i was young, i became a 'special' pioneer.
it meant that i had to spend 150 hours a month, and i received a small allowance.
i was then assigned to a small country congregation, in western nsw (australia).
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Rivergang
Hey! J, is your mate M. still %&#king the XXXX girl???
And back in the day, I used to actually believe that "Our church don't do that sort of thing" - and that it was only hypocrites such as Catholic priests who got up to those sorts of capers.
(Bloody hell, little did I know!)
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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Rivergang
Notformer:
Yeah - nothing like expecting to be able to have it both ways!
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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Rivergang
Jehovah's Witnesses feel that the environment in some universities or similar centers of higher learning can pose moral and spiritual dangers.
While remaining oblivious to the fact that - in this manner, at least - the workplace can be just as hazardous!
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JW Restrictions on Children
by NotFormer inissues raised in this thread:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6496820625145856/non-jw-parent-dating-jw-who-wants-children.
i'm trying to list all the things jw children are not allowed to do, or are discouraged from doing.
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Rivergang
It would be perhaps easier to list the things which JW kids are permitted to - a list which would be very brief in size.
- Meetings, meetings and more bloody meetings.
- Preparation for the same said meetings
- "Bible Study"
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circusservice. - The very minimum amount of education which is required by law.
- AND...... as highlight of the year, attend the assemblies!
Little wonder the JWs manage to retain only one third of their young people!
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JWLITE
by Teddnzo ineven elders can be part of the new jw lite brigade these days.
they don’t need to go on door to door anymore and there is no requirement for anything really.. taking meeting parts is all dead easy you could turn up on the day with zero preparation because it’s all in the meeting workbook.. quarterly elders meetings are just old men having a good old natter just like old men do down the pub.. congregations could be likened to pubs or bars these days just without the drinks, those come at other times.. no need for territory maps, these almost went away with covid letter writing now they are extremely slow getting finished as those who still go door to door only do ten mins.. you could even voice your questions these days about things the gb say and then just say “we can’t be dogmatic we just don’t know”.
i predict they will say this about 1914 soon..
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Rivergang
Maybe a little off-topic, but it is noticeable that those who have kept with the JW religion seem to share a common characteristic:
i.e. They pay lip-service to every utterance issued by the GB (and prior to that, “The Society”), but in practice, quietly ignore the more extreme demands of their religion. In that way, they are little different from the so-called “Mainstream Churches”. (This certainly applies to the members of my family who have remained with the JWs).
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Blasts at assembly in India
by InquiryMan inhttps://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/29/explosion-hits-jehovahs-witnesses-prayer-meeting-in-indias-kerala.
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Rivergang
From an Indian work colleague (of the Christian pursuasion), India is rapidly becoming a Hindu state.