Phoebe

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  Is there Some YouTube shenanigans going on?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i won't name the youtube channels yet but i noticed something while listening to them.

  both channels were christian in there title both had a married couple that had both woke up and left.

  both first started waking by up when the man out in service came a cross a wonderful christian family and they explained their lives followers of christ and doing missionary work etc.. both couples wanted to pray for or with the jws at their door but it didn't happen.

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  I think I know what this is, too. I SAW a video of a couple of exJWs explaining their fairly recent exit from the 'truth' they have started their own channel and then I HEARD a very, very similar couple relating exactly the same experience on another channel. I just assumed it was the same couple only in the latter video they were being interviewed.
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  "We dont mourn the dead"

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i remember a brother making the above statement in regards to an elderly sister who had passed.

  he stated we don't mourn or even visit grave sites because we have a hope that jah will resurrect the dead.

  it seemed really creepy at the time, hell, even jesus wept when lazarus died.

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  I've noticed so many times that when a spouse dies the brother/sister remarries so fast. Sometimes within 6 months. I think wow! you didn't mourn for long. We had one brother here, lost his wife and within the space of a very short time had wife number two who then died and within less than 6 months had wife number three. It was like, well, death breaks the ties so onto the next one. He never looked sad. It was all so matter of fact. I've seen that so many times. I always think why are you so cold?? Why don't you appear to care??

  Told my husband if I go before him I shall expect him to be wearing sackcloth and ashes and there better be a shrine to me in the house hahahaha
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  How many here are married to (still In) Jay Dubs? Any tips or advice for keeping the marriage going?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you are, you know it is not easy to remain intimate with someone who thinks you are basically "walking dead".. any thoughts or tips to share with the board?.

  what has been the greatest issue for your marriage?.

  need to vent?.

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  Phoebe

  When you are a witness you are constantly told this isn't the real life. Just get through this system as best you can because your real life is ahead.

  Before my very recent fade, my husband had left the organization 18 years ago, I always felt as if there was no point to my marriage as we didn't have the same spiritual goals and I totally envisaged a life in the new system without him. Sometimes when he got on my nerves I was actually quite looking forward to it!

  It is really difficult maintaining a close relationship when someone is in and you're not or visa versa.
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  UK Terrorists attacks

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have.

  but i am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken.

  we've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.. my jw acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near.

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  Phoebe

  I don't know if anyone has talked about this yet, forgive me if they have. But I am just so, so sad that yet more innocent lives have been so brutally taken. We've now had three attacks in three months and there has been countless terror attacks stopped by the police.

  My JW acquaintances see these attacks as proof the end is near. In fact, they almost seem to relish them - as long as no witnesses are involved, of course. When we've had attacks in the past and I've said how sad I am I've often heard 'well, no brothers were involved,' As if that made it all right.

  I now am even more affected by these tragic events. They say ignorance is bliss and I guess it is. Cocooned in my belief that it didn't matter what happened in the world God was soon going to fix it and all would be put right, I am left feeling helpless and without hope.

  Does anyone else feel this way? Or is it just me who has so recently left the 'truth'...will it get better?
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  How ballroom dancing helped our exit

  by Finally Left in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just wanted to say hello and thank you for all of your comments.

  when i finally figured out this was not the truth it was nice to know i wasn't the only one - it was a surprise to learn how many there are.

  february was my last month of service after 43 active years.

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  Phoebe

  Finally Left

  What a fabulous post. I needed to read this today. Thank you so much.

  xx
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  Feeling Alone. Need Emotional Support.

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  please chime in if you're one of my kindred spirit that happens to literally be trapped in due to strong family/friends ties, or plain fear of being abandoned in old age.. although leaving the org is my ultimate wish and desire, fear of the unknown, fear of how it would change my family dinamics, plain fear alone paralyzes me.

  how do you cope in this difficult situation?

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  Phoebe

  Doubtfully Yours

  It's something I'm dealing with too. I never really had any friends at the hall but just the act of going there and being in a room full of people meant I was 'going out' and now I suddenly realise I have no where to go, nowhere to be. My psychologist has told me she wants me to make 'new friends' but I'm 64, it's a daunting task.

  But I won't go back. Sometimes you just have to step out into the unknown and really, after all we now know do we really want to be associated with such an organization?

  Message me anytime if you want to chat. I have made a friends on this forum already and that has really, really helped me.
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  If you had the means to kill a terrorist before he detonated would you ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i mean blow their fucking brains out..

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  Phoebe

  Absolutely I would.

  I walked into a shop this morning and saw that darling little eight year's face on the front of every newspaper. A fun night out to see her favourite pop idol and she and 22 others are blown to bits by an evil monster. Yes, given the chance I wouldn't think twice.
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  last convention before global attack on witnesses

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

  'you have to go to the convention.

  bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

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  Phoebe

  Hi everyone,

  I just want to say a massive thank you to you all for your lovely words and advice and if I could hug you all, I would.

  I have been so scared I was doing the wrong thing leaving the WT after being in it for so long, but you have made me see I am doing the right thing and you have no idea how much that has helped me.

  I know it won't be easy but I'll get through it. You are such a lovely group of people. I feel privileged to be part of this.

  A huge heartfelt thank you to you all.

  xxx
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  last convention before global attack on witnesses

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

  'you have to go to the convention.

  bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

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  Phoebe

  Thank you stuckinarut2 and jp1692

  I appreciate your kind words. I know you are both right, it's just getting that into my stupid head!!!!

  I won't look at emails in the middle of the night and I'm now heading over to jwfacts.com

  Thanks.

  xxx
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  last convention before global attack on witnesses

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

  'you have to go to the convention.

  bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

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  Phoebe

  So it's not enough that I'm dealing with Post traumatic stress/Anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a JW (50 years baptized -- I stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. I get an email from the other side of the world. 'You HAVE to go to the convention. Bro Sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening. Some people are saying this is out last convention before a global attack on witnesses.'

  Now as someone who is battling with leaving this 'organization' emails like that - in the middle of the night - freak me out.

  I don't sleep and when I do, I have terrible nightmares. I've been brought up to have a hope for the future and a belief that my only way of survival is to be an active JW. But my life as a JW was a very unhappy one (with abuse both mental and sexual) and in some ways it's a relief to get out but losing that hope, that faith is painful to me. I can't get the fear and guilt out of my head and frightening emails in the middle of the night don't help.

  Can anyone share their personal experience to help me?