Wow! What's wrong with me? That should be obvious.You're so right, see why I get input from others??
I thought by naming an assortment of potential groups it would be ok. I'll revise.
Thank you.
i really have appreciated the suggestions on how to respond to the elders recent behavior of attempting to find a way to disfellowship me and trying to push their way into my home by force.
thank you it's been most helpful to see many different perspectives.. the following post is lengthy as i'm also addressing a related topic to anyone reading this site who is not a witness but even considering joining.
you will see once again how the jw religion destroys families for their own members, those who try to leave quietly, and even the family members who were raised in it yet were never baptized.
Wow! What's wrong with me? That should be obvious.You're so right, see why I get input from others??
I thought by naming an assortment of potential groups it would be ok. I'll revise.
Thank you.
i really have appreciated the suggestions on how to respond to the elders recent behavior of attempting to find a way to disfellowship me and trying to push their way into my home by force.
thank you it's been most helpful to see many different perspectives.. the following post is lengthy as i'm also addressing a related topic to anyone reading this site who is not a witness but even considering joining.
you will see once again how the jw religion destroys families for their own members, those who try to leave quietly, and even the family members who were raised in it yet were never baptized.
I really have appreciated the suggestions on how to respond to the elders recent behavior of attempting to find a way to disfellowship me and trying to push their way into my home by force. Thank you it's been most helpful to see many different perspectives.
The following post is lengthy as I'm also addressing a related topic to anyone reading this site who is not a Witness but even considering joining. You will see once again how the JW religion destroys families for their own members, those who try to leave quietly, and even the family members who were raised in it yet were never baptized.
As to the what I'm doing now to try to protect myself from their continued harassment and why. I agree that filing a police report would be justified. Yet the chance of a jw actually physically harming me is not great enough to publicly pursue it for one reason. It would surely get back to my family. Thus defeating my efforts to protect my father from this cultish disfellowshipping practice they are so intent on enforcing on all members. I want to leave quietly and peacefully from my end if at all possible.
The other option to request the local elders to stop would be pointless as I've made this cyrstal clear to multiple congregation members and now elders in two congregations! They would surely delight in kicking me out if I initiate another request.
Certainly my situation is far from unique. In this case I've placed a notice on my door that that says: β’Private Property. β’No Jehovah's Witnesses, solicitors, or religious group, etc. is to knock on the door or contact me in any way.β’ As far I remember only a Private Property sign was respected by them in their ministry. Hopefully it will in my case.
My other point regarding unbaptized family members is that the whole family can't be together for birthdays and holidays. Nothing new in that statement, but with my dad's age I think of the situation often.
This has deprived him and his children and grandchildren of the many occasions where the entire family could be together when everyone is off work. This is how many "worldly" families keep their ties with extended family over the course of the year or years. Not so with JW's, it's a huge loss for all, a disconnect that can't be changed.
Well, I could go on. I guess it's just hitting me so hard as the time goes by since I left. Now that I've joined my non-witness side of the family, my sisters, children, nieces , nephews , grandchildren, and so on who were either never baptized or left have couldn't become really close with the JW family group including my father who be gone before long.
We're all missing out on what could be amazing, we love each other yet it could be much better... Again, this is not just about me and my family, it's so across the religion.
That's all, I'm just so overwhelmed with the whole package of what the Watchtower grip of " being separate from the world " including worldly family has done and continues to do every single day. Over as out. π₯π£
hi friends one and all i just thought i would let you know it`s our 57th wedding anniversary today .
and we are setting off this morning for 3 nights in eden nsw i think it has more to offer than the one in genesis.. with a bit { or a lot } of luck we will make our fortune .
have a good day everybody.
Happy Anniversary to both of you, have fun! π
please tell me how not to think too much and get a good night sleep.
when i was a jw i didn't think too much because i knew everything, but now my mind works overtime.
how in the hell can i shut it down and stop the anxiety???
Lots of good suggestions! One thing that sometimes helps me is early in the evening I'll Google pictures or paintings of places I've lived or visited that made me happy. This brings those good memories back. π
For example, I might type in "Paintings of Florida Gulf Coast beaches," and it's right there just as I remember it! This makes it easier when I'm actually in bed to visualize being there. Hope this helps, sweet dreams. π
i've seen some depressing color schemes at the kingdom and assembly halls in my lifetime, but this one could be the worst.. a family member just sent me an email to tell me she had nice day at the assembly.
she attached a picture of the stage to show me a friend of hers who had a part.
other than the platform itself which had cream carpeting it was nothing but various shades of black!
The one I mentioned is in Florida USA. O wonder how many others are like this.
i've seen some depressing color schemes at the kingdom and assembly halls in my lifetime, but this one could be the worst.. a family member just sent me an email to tell me she had nice day at the assembly.
she attached a picture of the stage to show me a friend of hers who had a part.
other than the platform itself which had cream carpeting it was nothing but various shades of black!
I've seen some depressing color schemes at the Kingdom and Assembly Halls in my lifetime, but this one could be the worst.
A family member just sent me an email to tell me she had nice day at the assembly. She attached a picture of the stage to show me a friend of hers who had a part. Other than the platform itself which had cream carpeting it was nothing but various shades of black! I have no idea how to post it, but I would feel uncomfortable for some unexplainable reason anyway. I'll just describe instead.
There was a skinny row of green plants still in the black plastic containers they originally come in at the back of the stage directly in front of a black wrought iron railing. Behind that were the black draperies. How sad for those forced to be there, lest Jehovah smite them. They looked as if someone had stapled huge black sheets from the ceiling. Yikes!
The brother "privileged" to give the talk was wearing a black suit, as was the brother next to him. The third one brightened it up a bit with dark grey. π
The poor sister who also had the "privilege" of speaking to an audience of at least a thousand people did at least get to wear a blue and white outfit. Plenty of more black flimsy fabric from the platform to the floor. Who comes up with this stuff anyway?
That's a very well off circuit, I wonder what they were thinking, hopefully about all the money they will sink into it after the expense report. Maybe wonder where it's going???
I don't know what the theme was, perhaps how they are living in a spiritual paradise, but surely there wasn't any "new light" getting in today. π
I could make a few more jokes about it, but it just isn't right. It seems to me that only a cult could get people to sit there all day looking at that and then describe it as a "nice day." I feel bad that millions of people are wasting their lives devoted to the WTS.
Can you imagine actually putting your hard earned money into a contribution box for that? π₯
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
Hi Pale, Just read this sad news today, and I'm sorry for all you and your brother are going through.
It's great that you're advocating for him by speaking with his therapist. This will help the professionals get right to the source of the pain your brother is experiencing.
Good work, stay strong and please give a hug to your brother from longgone. π
although i consider myself completely "cured" from watchtower brainwashing, guilt tripping and propaganda, i realised today that there's not a day that goes by without me thinking of the cult we left.
i think of my former family and what i'd like to say to them, what i'd try to explain and how i'd say it without them switching the "ignore" button and running away.. today on my instagram account my little step-brother "liked" a picture i posted.
i didn't even know he was still on my friends list.
How amazing, I just sat down to post something like this. To ask if others can put it out of mind for any length of time?
It's been about one and half years out for me, and I frequently ask myself what's wrong with me that it pops up in my mind every day! Just like was said.
More than once though for me. Unless I'm completely distracted with other things, or concentrating very hard on something it comes drifting into my consciousness.
Since everything in my life involved family in the religion and other JW's exclusively, all my memories connect with it.
Example, (and I'll wrap this up before I start writing all night) I was fixing dinner and something about it reminded me of a close friend and how we cooked together, and how happy we were. Then right within that moment it comes to mind that thanks to the cult she's gone. As in no longer living. It hurts of course, and I was just fine, happy even doing an ordinary thing and suddenly I've been swept back into cult memories.
I wish we all could erase these thoughts. Perhap with time to some degree at least, I just don't know.
it now appears that the wt can df you just by marking you.
this happened to my me and my wife a few week ago.
a marking talk was given at the mid-week meeting in which no names were mentioned yet a detailed description of the "offending bastards" was delivered so that there as no doubt who this "pond scum" might be.
Dark Knight,
It's great to hear your little one is doing so well! π
I'm sorry that happened CC.
it was so embarrassing to stand in the classroom saying nothing while everyone else was saying the pledge. π