Why did you leave?

by Fred Franztone in

we all have many reasons for leaving, most are doctrinal, some are emotional.

it's a religion which obsesses over factual proofs (counterfactual though they are) of its veracity rather than faith, so it's inevitable that most who leave will do so for intellectual reasons.

which doctrine above all others forced you to reconsider your position?

FedUpJW

The glaring hypocrisy of the way these two scriptures were ignored by the "oh-so-humble" jack-wads in the congregations.

(John 15:12-14) . . . This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you. Absolutely no genuine, non-conditional love shown by anyone in the cult!

(Matthew 7:3) . . . Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye? Always willing to engage in malicious gossip, tearing other's down behind their back but putting on a pretense of "love" to your face. Digging up things one did decades earlier as the excuse to continue punishing you, because of alleged "stumbling".

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Who Says JW's Are Not A Judgemental Cult

by FedUpJW in

checked out another thread on the jw talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading makes it awkward...i think: .

hi brothers, hope we are all basking in jehovah's undeserved kindness.

well, anytime im having a bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; listen to god and live forever which has d topic : what do we learn from the great flood?

FedUpJW

Checked out another thread on the JW talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading Makes it Awkward...I think:

Hi brothers, hope we are all basking in Jehovah's undeserved kindness.

Well, anytime im having a Bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; Listen to God and Live Forever which has d topic : What Do we Learn from the Great Flood?

The last part in the study reads: "Some people are like Noah. They listen to God and do what He says; they are Jehovah's Witnesses."

I know we have the truth, but sometimes i feel when we openly rub it into their faces like that, it can make them angry and they might think we are judging them.

And one of the first replies was this little bit of goofiness, "Sooner or later, you have to tell them the truth. If they want to get on the road to life, they will have to join us."

Nope, JDub's don't judge people, or condemn them do they? No wonder we use the term jw.BORG

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Masturbation is not sinful, unclean, or wicked [Rebuttal to leaked Bethel video regarding masturbation]

by Mace.Bean in

jw
friends

[the following information is intended as a response to the leaked bethel video regarding masturbation.

if you are not aware of that video, please check it our before attempting to comment.].

masturbation is not sinful, unclean, or wicked.

FedUpJW

I equate masturbation with blowing my nose. It has to be done. It isn't a public affair nor anybody's business but my own.

I was told by a super-eldurr that proof of masturbation being a sin was that it was done in private. I asked him when was the last time he took a shit in public view of others.

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Unhappy being asked to give a Disfellowshipped Sister a ride to and from Meetings

by Isambard Crater in

i'm pimo, very much against disfellowshipping, and going to a meeting leaves me feeling confused and angry at the best of times.

except an elder asked me on thursday night if i can start giving a ride to a disfellowshipped woman because she lives near me and nobody else from the hall lives in my village.

it seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.. i thought all normal publishers weren't to have any contact with disfellowshipped people?

FedUpJW

It seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.

It is all about the $$$$ and the time with them. They would be falling over themselves to give her a ride IF they could get a boatload of praise from others for it.

I went through this with an eldurr in my locality who always tried to guilt me into giving rides to his bible indoctrination victims, dis-fellowshipped people, and the loons who no one else could tolerate. Then I finally got FedUp and told him "NO"! Now I am a persona non grata in his book, and I am just fine with that.

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Idiotic Thread On A Cult Site

by FedUpJW in

so as is my habit when i need a good laugh at stupid chat forum threads i popped in to the jay double u talk site and happened on this hilarious thread.

of course i have not read the whole thing, it was just too mentally painful to read those nitwits "reasoning"about "music".. why jehovah's witnesses do not use drums.... .

FedUpJW

Here are a couple of the answers:

Did you let the person know - it is because it is a "hall" where we discuss the Kingdom - hence "Kingdom Hall" and NOT a "Dance Hall" or a "Music Hall"??

The purpose of our music is to worship Jehovah in song and the musical accompaniment is solely to help in that purpose.

Music should be done tastefully and not detracting from the style the brothers have chosen (avoiding the gospel style or the traditional catholic choir sound)

Had to stop reading after some of these comments, however I noted three pages of back and forth about drums.

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Idiotic Thread On A Cult Site

by FedUpJW in

so as is my habit when i need a good laugh at stupid chat forum threads i popped in to the jay double u talk site and happened on this hilarious thread.

of course i have not read the whole thing, it was just too mentally painful to read those nitwits "reasoning"about "music".. why jehovah's witnesses do not use drums.... .

FedUpJW

So as is my habit when I need a good laugh at stupid chat forum threads I popped in to the Jay Double U Talk site and happened on this hilarious thread. Of course I have not read the whole thing, it was just too mentally painful to read those nitwits "reasoning"about "music".

Why Jehovah's Witnesses do not use drums...

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CO working at Walmart

by the girl next door in

it just took me by surprise.

i remember him from a decade or so ago.

he came up with gems like, “weddings are for women, they are not necessary.” also, “if you want to be truly happy, marry an ugly woman.”.

FedUpJW

Some JWs never wanted to work and are lifelong deadbeats.

I would say many.

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CO working at Walmart

by the girl next door in

it just took me by surprise.

i remember him from a decade or so ago.

he came up with gems like, “weddings are for women, they are not necessary.” also, “if you want to be truly happy, marry an ugly woman.”.

FedUpJW

Don't get me wrong, over the years there definitely were a few "gems" of human beings that were COs. They REALLY did care, and were decent people, but unfortunately, they were not the norm.

I have known a number of them. Without exception the ones I knew were used, abused, chewed up, spit out, thrown to the curb, and many are now just barely active Witlesses.

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Oh Boy! Beards are "stumbling blocks" again ... from Stephen Lett

by freddo in

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so this week's midweek meeting video about stumbling others has lett spouting and gurning rubbish again.. if you can't take the whole 9 minutes go from 5:50 to get the context and 6:45 for the "beard" mention.. https://youtu.be/ezv1ici5cwo.

oh, well - at least they shoot themselves in the foot with this doublespeak.

single.

FedUpJW

On the other hand, Psalm 119:165 says "Abundant peace belongs to those loving your law, and for them there is no stumbling block".

That is why I refer anyone who claims to be "stumbled" to this Bible verse. Then I ask them why they do not love God's law?

Except that means "the weak ones" end up determining the rules and policies of the community.

I now use the term "stumble club". It is a useful tool for the timid, the weak, the stupid, the power hungry to beat their fellow slaves with. The wicked fools!

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The laziness of JW parents....

by stuckinarut2 in

it struck me that the society has created a culture of lazy jw parenting.. rather than parents being there to guide and direct and help their children through all stages of life, the gb / society has become the "go-too" for everything.. if the child has an issue, there is a wt article for that.. does the child need help with something else?

ah, there is a caleb and sophia cartoon for that.. what about that other topic?

ah, there is a book for that.. so rather than being present parents, the average jw parent simply outsources their parenting to the organization!

FedUpJW

I know so many that fell into this trap. As full grown adults, they struggle to make ends meet, are heavily in debt, have no savings, no health care insurance, no retirement, and no meaningful employment that provides some satisfaction.

Oh but wait...they do not care. After all as I have been repeatedly informed the Bible tells them that they will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will become abhorrent to them. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them. So it is there own fault that they are in that situation. I have ZERO sympathy for them. Besides we all know where to find "sympathy" in the dictionary...right between "shit" and "syphilis".

FedUpJW

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