a sister said the other day at the ministry group “”what is all this talk that the end is still some way off” she said she has been waiting for decades and she was told there is no way it would take this long.
some others said in an annoyed kind of way yes they would have made different decisions decades ago if they knew the end still would not have come by 2023.. how will the majority react in a few more decades time when the end still hasn’t come?.
why all that talk of sense of urgency decades ago?.
If any Witnesses ignored this and stayed in sleep mode daydreaming and didn’t plan accordingly, it’s hard to feel sympathy.
I appreciate your comments. I would though change the word "hard" to "impossible". In my case I choose to feel ZERO sympathy for any JW that is by their own choices struggling financially and I cannot honestly say it is hard to do. Does that make me a "bad" person?
if a publisher openly told the elders that they thought the gb were wrong about some or a lot of things, but said they will not share these thoughts with anyone else then would this be a case of disassociation disgfellowship?.
my guess is lots of elders meetings and shepherding calls to try to get you to say something they could use against you.. but what would be the sin in which you are not repented?.
the only reason to be dissed is non repentance?.
Elders can & do diss JW's for various excuses.
Agreed. I have said it here before, my father (an elder at the time) said anyone can be DF'd for anything that three elders can agree on.
during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.
the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.
do the branch help at all?
The Borg doesn't care if you have to drive 1000miles anywhere in any direction. Just as long as your behind is in those seats and keep on pushing door bells.
And they mustn't forget to keep pushing those $$$$$ into the "contribution" boxes.
during the height of the pandemic all elders had to report to the co anyone who was struggling with bills or who couldn’t pay the rent.
the co reported it to the branch.. i don’t know what happens next.
do the branch help at all?
This is from the letter posted here a few weeks ago. The letter itself was 7 pages long. As you can see WT passes the responsibility off to other true charities, and to government agencies. Damned hypocrites!
United States – Resources for Distressed Households
As of February 06, 2023
The branch office does not endorse any of the following programs. Do not post this document publicly on any website, social media, or sharing service. The links will take you to various available resources including nonprofit and government agencies. Family heads will need to use discernment and carefully research these resources to determine whether the program is appropriate for their households and decide if they will avail themselves of such programs.
i came across an xjw post on redditt from a rn.
she states that nearly every jw she ever treated was on anti-depressants or anti-psychotic drugs:.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/f35vaa/just_about_every_jw_i_come_across_is_on/ i once read somewhere that 1 in 5 jw's were on anti-depressants, but i couldn't find any documentation.
So I wonder how much of the depression and illness is the result of abusive home life.
Perhaps a pretty fair amount, but I would hazard a guess that there is as much or more depression and illness as a direct result of and abusive RELIGIOUS life. Always being goaded to do and give more. . .More. . .MORE!
my big one was: .
rev.
20: 5 "but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
That one about the bloke that tried to steady the ark of the covenant
Or when that pillar of righteousness David took a census, and instead of paying the penalty himself 70,000 innocent people died.
Why does this description of the future Paradise limit it to just "for a while"?
Because after a while the wolf will kill and eat the kid.
not a hint of a new date for the great tribulation.
the attitude of jw is that they expect it immediately although the inter-lapping anointed allows for any additional extended time.
given the time of the end, the end comes after the good news is preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations with the internet and 108 years and tons of publications even in finnish.
This system is obviously on its way out very, Very, VERY soon!
We can narrow it down even closer. This system is in the last nano-second, of the last seconds, of the last minute, of the last hour, of the last day, of the last week, of the last month, of the last year, of the last decade, of the last century, of the last millennium.
If an exact WHEN is needed I predict it will happen on October 1st of 2222, at 2:22 A.M. eastern time in New York, USA. That is soon in the grand scheme of time.
thank you very much atlantis for all your hard work and for emailing a letter written by the watchtower (coming from the german branch possibly) to be read out to congregations by elders.. there is so much wrong in this letter.
maybe some of it is due to being lost in translation but since the watchtower is predominantly english, it doesn't seem likely.
the letter is as follows -.
JW News on JW Org no longer carries their story announcing the tragedy. It's been removed and there is no mention whatsoever on JW Org.
Because they are preparing pleas for what is stated below.
Likely the the next step is to announce that funds can be donated to the World Wide Work.
Remember, WT does nothing out of genuine love for fellow man/woman or without ulterior motives. It's going to be milked for all the $$$$$ they can guilt members into parting with.
jws see shunning as a loving provision.
but if a mennonite gal is shunned by her parents and friends for converting to jwism, would this be seen as a loving provision or as evidence of persecution?
how about parents beating a daughter who converted to jehovah's witnesses?.
Why can WatchTower call the expulsion of Mennonites cruel while calling expulsion of JWs a loving provision?
"Rules for thee, but not for me!"
i overheard my wife listening to '2023 governing body update #2, presented by kenneth cook jnr.
a few points i got from it.. new hour requirements.
quote "with the new hour requirements for pioneers, many us us can share in the pioneer work.
Quote "with the new hour requirements for pioneers, many us us can share in the pioneer work." Let's read between the lines on that.
Okay. Let's read between the lines on that. Quote "with the now minimal hour requirements for pioneers, all of you must now take up your share in the pioneer work. Those who rebelliously choose not to will be judged as 'not of our sort' and shunned accordingly."
I heard that type of comment in passing by a still-in JW who said, "With those low hours NO ONE who is faithful should not be pioneering now that we are soooo close to Armageddon!"
