Not a chance. They have to maintain the isolation or they will lose control over the whole religion with the resulting loss of money. Never gonna happen.
FedUpJW
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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?
by doinmypart ini think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.
my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.
this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
I'm hopelessly lost!
WT gibberish will do that to someone.
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Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning
by NotFormer indoes the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
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FedUpJW
I wrote it as fact, because I believe it to be fact, based on the educated guesses, i.e. speculation
Jesus picked a few men to be a "faithful and discreet slave" in 1919.
This system will meet it's end in 1925.
Armageddon will come in 1975.
The preaching work will be completed by the end of this twentieth century.
You will not graduate before the end of this system.
Just a few examples of what happens when speculation is written as fact. Not trying to be mean.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
So, yes, they are not the confident debaters they once were, in my recent experience.
They are though master debaters. Just watch their infamous sign language video.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
Would the one and only people of the sovereign of the universe be representing him like this? Shouldn't they be boldly defending their doctrine and strongly and boldly giving a clear shout of warning to an entire world they think is about to be violently destroyed?
That was one of the many things that started me on the road leading off the hamster wheel. I just could not accept that IF what I believed was the truth why would I want to refrain from defending it? If peoples lives were in fact hanging in the balance depending on what I told them why would I want to sound an indistinct message? Why would I want to claim to have the light of truth and then hide it? Their own Bible condemns them, again.
(1 Corinthians 14:8, 9) 8 For if the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for battle? 9 In the same way, unless you with the tongue use speech that is easily understood, how will anyone know what is being said? You will, in fact, be speaking into the air. . .
(Matthew 5:15, 16) 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. 16 Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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FedUpJW
They are slowly deleting all of Tony’s videos
I have kept a record of videos and have seen no change in the count. Last count was 39 this morning.
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2024-March-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!
by Atlantis in2024-march-s-147-announcements and reminders!.
page 1. https://imgbox.com/c7oswyu6 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/fzffpoha.
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FedUpJW
Thank you.
I see that again WT instructs elders to begin hounding the members about not forgetting the CONvention several months in advance, just like they think their members are a bunch of half-wit children. And of course they are told to subject the members to that god-awful white board cartoon video about CONvention reminders, again treating their members like special needs children. I'm glad I don't run that hamster wheel waste of time anymore!
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Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind
by Captain Schmideo2 insomeone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.
she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.
the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.
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FedUpJW
Once a member of the hall stops showing up due to serious illness, unless they are part of some huge clan (we are not a huge clan in my family), then they are going to be forgotten.
I've made a number of references here on this site to the way my parents were treated by JW's in their final years. The JW's are some of the most hypocritical pieces of s--t that exist when they yap about "love". As my father said shortly before he died, "Jehovah's Witnesses have "love" on their lips, but NONE in their hearts!
Realistically though that happens in all religions. My uncle and aunt, both staunch Southern Baptists, who are 96 and 92 respectively no longer have any members of their church who come by any more. As my uncle said, "They have forgotten us."
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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FedUpJW
Here is an off the wall thought. Maybe ol' Tony died. And instead of the usual "finished his earthly course" announcement WT did it the way they did as a method of jerking exJW's chains? Meanwhile they are sitting in their expensive office chairs laughing their a--es off at all the speculation.
BTW, he has not been scrubbed from their website. As of this morning there are 39 photos of him appearing in videos.
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Enjoy hope without disappointment
by Mikejw intodays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.
they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.
i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.
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FedUpJW
I subscribe to the motto: Hope in one hand and s--t in the other and see which one needs washed.
Hope is a lot like sitting in a rocking chair. You can spend a lot of time there, but never get anywhere. You need to get up and MAKE things happen. Hope will NEVER get anything done! For example, go sit in a chair and HOPE that you get noon dinner. Do nothing but HOPE for it, and you will get mighty hungry unless you get up and make your dinner.