I would rather die standing up for myself, than live kneeling for the government!
FedUpJW
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Do You Feel Your Rights Are Being Trampled On By Government Regarding Coronavirus?
by minimus ini support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.
i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.
are we prolonging this virus at all ?
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MANUAL!--2020-04 SFL.
by Atlantis in2020-04-addendum letter.. https://docdro.id/n0hm6tg.
2020-04 shepherd the flock of god elder manual.
https://docdro.id/llechtz.
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FedUpJW
Isn't it easy to see what they consider important:
Yes it is. This was printed even before the "Table of Contents: To make a donation, please visit donate.jw.org.
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Disunited States of America?
by jwleaks inrecognizing that their states have one integrated regional economy, delaware governor john carney, new york governor andrew m. cuomo, new jersey governor phil murphy, connecticut governor ned lamont, pennsylvania governor tom wolf, and rhode island governor gina raimondo today announced the creation of a multi-state council to restore the economy and get people back to work.
this announcement builds on the states’ ongoing regional approach to combatting the covid-19 pandemic.. the coordinating group – comprised of one health expert, one economic development expert and the respective chief of staff from each state — will work together to develop a fully integrated regional framework to gradually lift the states’ stay at home orders while minimizing the risk of increased spread of the virus.. https://news.delaware.gov/2020/04/13/governor-carney-and-five-governors-announce-multi-state-council-to-get-people-back-to-work-and-restore-the-economy/.
meanwhile on the west coast:.
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FedUpJW
Strange that these governors are now being praised when just a couple weeks ago when Trump talked about reopening the country by Easter, even though the President hadn't reached a final decision on exactly when the government's guidelines would be relaxed to get the economy back up and running, he was condamned for his optimism.
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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread
by Simon inthis topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
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FedUpJW
I guess I am pretty dense. How, exactly, will testing be the answer? If I were to test negative today, be exposed to someone tomorrow who spreads it to me, then what? To my way of thinking testing would only genuinely help if EVERYONE got tested simultaneously, and then every single person with a positive test were placed under extremely strict house arrest with zero contact with the outside world, for however long it took to herd vaccinate every single person who tested negative. Somewhere, somehow, sometime, someone is going to get sick from this virus, and IMO that is just a fact of life.
And NO, I am NOT saying there is no concern or this is a hoax or any of that other garbage, so don't even go there!
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Circuit storehouse
by road to nowhere ingot more info.
donate canned food, stable things.
if there is a need go to family, friends, neighbors, food banks, government, then congregation, and next to last circuit.
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FedUpJW
They say the purpose is not just to know who has a need...but who has a SURPLUS!
My dad always said profanity is the sign of a weak mind trying to express itself forcefully. Well dad, my mind is weak today, and I say, "FUCK THEM!"
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Mind Numbing
by FedUpJW inreceived another email forward.
the doom-n-gloomers are sooo loving.
sending out cc: bulk emails with cut and paste government programs to "lovingly" help the "friends".
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FedUpJW
@LHG
My thoughts exactly. They are throwing the "sheep" under the bus again. It should come as no surprise to anyone. I do have doubts that JW's will wake up. If anything it seems they are getting even more radical about this being "the end" and circling the wagons.
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Mind Numbing
by FedUpJW inreceived another email forward.
the doom-n-gloomers are sooo loving.
sending out cc: bulk emails with cut and paste government programs to "lovingly" help the "friends".
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FedUpJW
Received another email forward. The doom-n-gloomers are SOOO loving. Sending out Cc: bulk emails with cut and paste government programs to "lovingly" help the "friends". Thank goodness that god has the internet to find information provided by the Devil's government and then inspire the branch to send it out. Heaven help them if they were ever to decide to actually DO SOMETHING in a personal way!
Dear Friends,
Please find attached a listing of government resources and programs that cover a wide variety of needs resulting from the COVID-19 virus.
Once again we can feel Jehovah's loving support for His people during these difficult times. Jehovah is interested in each one of us. We bring Him much happiness by the way we look after our families and our congregation. -
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Keeping everyone on the hook
by hoser ini’ve always noticed that the local jw leaders like to give as little notice as possible for local meetings and expect you to drop everything and rearrange your life to fit their agenda in.
i’ve noticed this more during the pandemic.
we are not given the codes and time of memorial until a couple hours before meeting.
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FedUpJW
Based on my observation in my locality, it appears to be more a case of eldurrs who are self-important, egotistical, pompous-ass, puffed up with pride little Hitlers.
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Latest Trick by You know Who!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara inthis is getting thrown about a lot to me from various jdumbs.. .
also got the perfect answer as retort!
beat that you jdumb morons!.
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FedUpJW
Thought I would share this bit of B.S. I received in an email forwarded to me just this morning.
Dear Friends,We are reminded in Proverbs 22:3 "The shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself, But the inexperienced keep right on going and suffer the consequences". Jehovah has helped us all to act wisely by means of our following the direction of His earthly organization. He also knows that there will be things that we need help in understanding more clearly so that we can make wise decision regarding how we will conduct ourselves during this health emergency. Jehovah has promised that we will have the answers we need to keep us safe during these times as we are reminded in James 1:5 "So if any one of you is lacking in wisdom, let him keep asking God, for he gives generously to all and without reproaching, and it will be given him".Please carefully and prayerfully review the attached letter from our branch disaster relief committee. It will hopefully provide valuable guidance respecting the virus and how we can protect ourselves and our loved ones. Ultimately, this is from Jehovah and sent to you as an expression of his love for each and every one of you.Your elders also wish to express their love for you all as well. Colossians 1:9,10Warm Christian Love,XXXXX XXXXXXX Body of EldersSo there is a two page letter of Q and A instructions attached to the email. Pretty long and not sure if I should copy and paste it in this post. Reading it though gives the impression that everyone is evidently too stupid to know how to wash their hands, keep away from sick people, or stay away from healthy people if they are sick without the WT telling them the EXACT same information that has been readily available from "worldly" sources several weeks prior to the WT claiming it was God who sent the information to WT. I would imagine that the JW's will now be going on about how "wise, faithful, and discreet the slave is" after they finally start doing what they should have been doing all along. -
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Do You Feel Your Rights Are Being Trampled On By Government Regarding Coronavirus?
by minimus ini support local and state and federal government’s power to safeguard the public.
i wonder is it getting to a point where we will be told we can’t go out anymore, can’t use your phone or computer anymore because of the viruses that we can get, etc.
are we prolonging this virus at all ?
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FedUpJW
Yes, I do believe governments are trampling on rights. I am intelligent enough to practice good hygiene, and stay away from sick people. While I support some government intervention for public safety (think speed limits, fire and police departments etc.) I also think that government over-reach with police enforced travel bans and stay in your home orders are too broad.
Does anyone really believe that once any government uses, and their citizens willingly accept, a level of control over their personal lives that encroaches on their freedoms as human beings that said government will readily relinquish that control?
And NO, I am not saying that their is not a serious virus, and NO, I am not saying that measures should not be taken to ensure personal and public safety. Just that personal responsibility needs to be respected by governments or be insisted upon by the citizens themselves.