Posts by FedUpJW

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2023-01-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

by Atlantis in

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2023-01-s-147-announcements and reminders.. click image to enlarge.. .

page 1. https://postimg.cc/mfwxd5rv.

page 2. https://postimg.cc/5hbxtvfv .

FedUpJW

Thank you Atlantis.

First thing I notice is that the letter lays the blame on the lowly publisher for not obtaining a better outcome ddue to not contacting HLC far enough in advance, IN AN EMERGENCY. Well excuse us! I guess we need to plan medical emergencies in advance now!

Perhaps it is just me, I noticed that the Announcements For Elders in Paragraph 2 subparagraph 2 states "When a publisher requests HLC assistance, FIRST contact the HLC to provide the following information: Spiritual standing of publisher and his family. . ." (Bold and italics mine) It sounds like any help will be exactly like the JW "love" they brag about. . .CONDITIONAL!

I base that opinion on paragraph 3 which indicates it is only after step 2 that the oh so important elder would provide the HLC information to the lowly publisher.

The elders giveth, and the elders taketh away I guess.

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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?

by Vanderhoven7 in

if there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.

i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.

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FedUpJW

“The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible.

They had to say that or they would have stepped in a huge, stinking, steaming pile of. . .well you know.

Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction...

Notice, there is zero admission of error. They key word in this statement is CAN, not does. Can only denotes the possibility, not the certainty.

Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."

He shouldn't have had to say so. If Jesus is perfect, and if Jesus provides the food initially, then logically the food is perfect and the governing body as merely a middleman would provide what Jesus did. However if they err or if the food isn't perfect then either of only two options present themselves. Either Jesus and the food he initially provides are imperfect, or the middleman is not providing the food they are tasked with providing.

In any case the governing body is engaging in a blatant case of CYA and is not generating any trust in anyone able to read between the lines.

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What,s the organization stand on Debutante( young ladies introduce to Society).

by jam in

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i recently viewed the debutante event of my greatniece.. a beautiful ceremony, of course she was not a jw.. my grand daughters (jws), i think about what would.

be wrong if they participated in such a event.

introduction to society.. .

FedUpJW

It must be admitted that even the most conscientious of chaperons may find it next to impossible in a darkened ballroom or gymnasium to control a crowd of youths who are bent on having a ‘good time.’

And THAT is the intent on WT. If it looks like it may be a "good time", sounds like it may be a "good time", or is found out to be a "good time" it is verboten in WT-land! Joy, smiles, fun, are to be avoided at all costs, especially for the young and more easily manipulated, in favor off keeping a serious look on your face, and never doing anything that is not WT related. Their biggest goal is CONtrol!

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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?

by eyeslice in

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one thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.

it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.

it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.

FedUpJW

I see an angel there, ( or I am missing something ) I actually see more than one angel...I thought these represented the angels in midheaven declaring the good news. ( So I really don't see Jesus at all.)

The photo having been out back so many years when I was not yet FedUp was commented on at some length by an uber-JW elder's wife who had the habit of knowing all there was to know about anything in WT land and letting everyone know she knew. I based my observation here about the whited robed one being Jesus on what I remembered of her comment back then that she prefaced with, "A person I know in the writing department said. . ."

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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?

by eyeslice in

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one thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.

it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.

it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.

FedUpJW

If that is Jehovah, where is Jesus?

He is dressed in a white robe just to the right and a little bit lower than the governing body. That was not drawn that way by mistake IMO. They feel they are equal to or even a little higher than Jesus.

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Are the statistics out yet?

by slimboyfat in

isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?

or have they stopped publishing it?

did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?

FedUpJW

Figures don't lie, but liars figure."

-Mark Twain

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A though on the shooting tragedy

by enoughisenough in

i am thinking about how i read in the reports that the shooter had contacted another person expressing desire to go back .....and was told to contact an elder.

the man seemed to me to be reaching out for help and got put off...and since he had called this person, he was put off by someone he felt could make a difference.

i would hate to be in the shoes of the person the shooter called...for i would feel so guilty, thinking i could have said something else and none the tragedy would have happened.

FedUpJW

So far it's trending the guy was a total nut job

Court records show Apodaca was fired from his employment with Sturgeon Electric Co. in June 2021. Later, he reportedly told a union representative that he would shoot his wife and the rep before coming “after the people responsible at Sturgeon.”

I go with the total "nut job" opinion.

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I don't get it.

by LostintheFog1999 in

i am a historian and the period of english history from henry vii to elizabeth i is my specialist area.. i was talking to an ex-jw about the time when tyndale first translated the bible into english with his intention that everyone from the ploughboy upwards would be able to read and understand the scriptures.

it dawned on us both that this was a significant point in english history.. just having access to the bible in hi their own language allowed the common man to understand what god wanted him to understand.. it was and is, so simple.. why then oh why then do jehovah's witnesses think that they need a fds to explain it to them?

when in the 1600s just having a bible written in english was enough for people to understand the word of god?.

FedUpJW

w10 9/15 p. 8 par. 7 - Without the assistance of “the faithful and discreet slave,” we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it."

And of course it was a then unknown FDS that made sure those 8 guys in New York understood who the FDS was.

WE are the FDS. How do you know? Because we understand the Bible. Why do you think you understand the correct biblical meaning? Because WE are the FDS.

And just like a merry-go-round their circular reasoning keeps on spinning.

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Has anybody decided on a New Years resolution yet?

by smiddy3 in

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i have , i decided to only drink beer three days a week ,yesterday ,today,and tomorrow .

FedUpJW

Not to read any online comment thread dealing with L.E. It's all been said, repeated, and repeated again to the point it is written diarrhea of the mouth!

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Police confirm homicide at Jehovah’s witness center in Colorado after shooter 'threw Molotov cocktail into building'

by TakeOffTheCrown in

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11573103/active-shooter-throws-molotov-cocktail-jehovahs-witness-center-colorado.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top.

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FedUpJW

JW's, former JW's, or never were JW's really doesn't matter. In cases like this the shooter always gets the wrong order. He should have shot himself first!