My dad had a good saying about the way people were driving a vehicle that may fit the way territories are being covered now. "If they were going any SLOWER they would be backing up!"
FedUpJW
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getting round the territory slowly compared to before?
by Indoubtbigtime infrom what i know most territory maps in most congregations are being done much much slower than before.
my congregation is very very slow getting round the territory compared to before.
then pioneers will have hour requirement coming back in march but they are just not used to getting 3hrs a day 7 days a week.. many congregations used to get round all their territory every so often, now all congregations around north london where i am (yes i’m an ms involved with territory servants) are hardly getting around their territory at all.. of course letter writing was slow going but now back to first call hardly anyone is going out in person and those few that do don’t do that much.. even the elders who are supposed to take the lead don’t seem to come out much at all and when they do i know of more than one example of them only doing ten mins maybe a few houses then going for the obligatory coffee break.
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Petra! Allow Me! To Simon and Wife and Every Member!
by Atlantis inallow me to step forward.. .
allow me to open my arms.. .
allow me to wrap my arms around you.. .
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Beautiful!
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Seems to be a census on vaccine status
by Indoubtbigtime inthe upcoming km school for all elders and servants is going to be in person only with no provision for video conferencing.. only fully vaccinated may attend.
meaning if you missed your last booster you are no longer fully vaccinated.. every coordinator of body of elders has to ask every single ms and elder if they have kept up with all their boosters and are fully vaccinated or they can’t attend.. this seems to be a census the gb want to know how many are keeping up with booster shots.
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FedUpJW
Every Coordinator of body of elders has to ask every single MS and Elder if they have kept up with all their boosters and are fully vaccinated
Thank God I am FedUp and no longer playing their little games. If I were though, and if they asked my reply would be along the line of, "HIPPA laws apply to you too. It is none of your business what medical treatments I have had." Then I would turn on my heel and leave them standing there with their mouth gaped open at my nerve telling them off.
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2023-01-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!
by Atlantis in2023-01-s-147-announcements and reminders.. click image to enlarge.. .
page 1. https://postimg.cc/mfwxd5rv.
page 2. https://postimg.cc/5hbxtvfv .
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FedUpJW
Thank you Atlantis.
First thing I notice is that the letter lays the blame on the lowly publisher for not obtaining a better outcome ddue to not contacting HLC far enough in advance, IN AN EMERGENCY. Well excuse us! I guess we need to plan medical emergencies in advance now!
Perhaps it is just me, I noticed that the Announcements For Elders in Paragraph 2 subparagraph 2 states "When a publisher requests HLC assistance, FIRST contact the HLC to provide the following information: Spiritual standing of publisher and his family. . ." (Bold and italics mine) It sounds like any help will be exactly like the JW "love" they brag about. . .CONDITIONAL!
I base that opinion on paragraph 3 which indicates it is only after step 2 that the oh so important elder would provide the HLC information to the lowly publisher.
The elders giveth, and the elders taketh away I guess.
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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?
by Vanderhoven7 inif there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.
i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.
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FedUpJW
“The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible.
They had to say that or they would have stepped in a huge, stinking, steaming pile of. . .well you know.
Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction...
Notice, there is zero admission of error. They key word in this statement is CAN, not does. Can only denotes the possibility, not the certainty.
Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."
He shouldn't have had to say so. If Jesus is perfect, and if Jesus provides the food initially, then logically the food is perfect and the governing body as merely a middleman would provide what Jesus did. However if they err or if the food isn't perfect then either of only two options present themselves. Either Jesus and the food he initially provides are imperfect, or the middleman is not providing the food they are tasked with providing.
In any case the governing body is engaging in a blatant case of CYA and is not generating any trust in anyone able to read between the lines.
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What,s the organization stand on Debutante( young ladies introduce to Society).
by jam ini recently viewed the debutante event of my greatniece.. a beautiful ceremony, of course she was not a jw.. my grand daughters (jws), i think about what would.
be wrong if they participated in such a event.
introduction to society.. .
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FedUpJW
It must be admitted that even the most conscientious of chaperons may find it next to impossible in a darkened ballroom or gymnasium to control a crowd of youths who are bent on having a ‘good time.’
And THAT is the intent on WT. If it looks like it may be a "good time", sounds like it may be a "good time", or is found out to be a "good time" it is verboten in WT-land! Joy, smiles, fun, are to be avoided at all costs, especially for the young and more easily manipulated, in favor off keeping a serious look on your face, and never doing anything that is not WT related. Their biggest goal is CONtrol!
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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?
by eyeslice inone thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.
it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.
it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.
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I see an angel there, ( or I am missing something ) I actually see more than one angel...I thought these represented the angels in midheaven declaring the good news. ( So I really don't see Jesus at all.)
The photo having been out back so many years when I was not yet FedUp was commented on at some length by an uber-JW elder's wife who had the habit of knowing all there was to know about anything in WT land and letting everyone know she knew. I based my observation here about the whited robed one being Jesus on what I remembered of her comment back then that she prefaced with, "A person I know in the writing department said. . ."
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JW Broadcasting - simply a platform for narcissists?
by eyeslice inone thing i notice from sitting through a number of broadcasts is just how much these guys love their titles.
it's always brother such-and-such, member of the gb, helper to the teaching committee, etc.
it's never simply brother such-and-such, a local elder with such-and-such congregation.. it seems to me the witnesses are pretty quick to pick up on catholics who call their priests father, which at the end of the day is in much the same vein simply a title.. i suspect these titles point to a huge amount of narcissism of the part of those who revel in such titles, certainly it doesn't seem to fall in line with christ's advocation that the greatest amongst you should be be the least.
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FedUpJW
If that is Jehovah, where is Jesus?
He is dressed in a white robe just to the right and a little bit lower than the governing body. That was not drawn that way by mistake IMO. They feel they are equal to or even a little higher than Jesus.
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Are the statistics out yet?
by slimboyfat inisn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?
or have they stopped publishing it?
did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?
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FedUpJW
Figures don't lie, but liars figure."
-Mark Twain
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A though on the shooting tragedy
by enoughisenough ini am thinking about how i read in the reports that the shooter had contacted another person expressing desire to go back .....and was told to contact an elder.
the man seemed to me to be reaching out for help and got put off...and since he had called this person, he was put off by someone he felt could make a difference.
i would hate to be in the shoes of the person the shooter called...for i would feel so guilty, thinking i could have said something else and none the tragedy would have happened.
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FedUpJW
So far it's trending the guy was a total nut job
Court records show Apodaca was fired from his employment with Sturgeon Electric Co. in June 2021. Later, he reportedly told a union representative that he would shoot his wife and the rep before coming “after the people responsible at Sturgeon.”
I go with the total "nut job" opinion.