I hope they lose this appeal.
The JW's need to face the fact that they are NO different than any of the other religions they demonize for being money hungry!
FedUpJW
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Norway
by St George of England inso the wt society is going to contest the recent norway ruling.. jehovah’s witnesses to appeal unconstitutional ruling in norway (jw.org).
their true colours are shown in the statement: "the decision to deregister jehovah’s witnesses denies us the financial aid and other benefits that the government provides to over 700 registered religious communities in the country.
additional consequences include losing the right to appoint and authorize ministers of jehovah’s witnesses as officiants for weddings.".
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Lack of Joy
by Gorb inbecause of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?
we entered the hall and some said a short hello.
and with short i say short.
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FedUpJW
It seemed absurd to pass those plates like a charade.
I broke down for the sake of seeing one or two friends who are PIMI. Pulled out a chair by itself next to the back wall by myself. When they passed the plate and glass one of the newbies who I do not know handed them to me with a hopeful look that I would hand it back to him, then a look of disgusted disappointment when I did not, instead handing it to another plate passer on the other side of my chair. Damn near laughed right out loud.
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JW Expanded Volunteer Activities?
by doinmypart ini think the gb needs to expand publishers' volunteer activities beyond door knocking.. gb has shifted away from door-knocking to more varied forms of witnessing and no longer counting time for publishers.
my prediction is that the gb will start encouraging jws to participate in broader community volunteer efforts: clean-up drives, food banks, senior citizen support, and other non-proselytizing activities.
this move could help them gain goodwill with government agencies and the public.. expanding volunteer activities could significantly shift how jws are perceived by the wider community.
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FedUpJW
Not a chance. They have to maintain the isolation or they will lose control over the whole religion with the resulting loss of money. Never gonna happen.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
I'm hopelessly lost!
WT gibberish will do that to someone.
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Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning
by NotFormer indoes the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
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FedUpJW
I wrote it as fact, because I believe it to be fact, based on the educated guesses, i.e. speculation
Jesus picked a few men to be a "faithful and discreet slave" in 1919.
This system will meet it's end in 1925.
Armageddon will come in 1975.
The preaching work will be completed by the end of this twentieth century.
You will not graduate before the end of this system.
Just a few examples of what happens when speculation is written as fact. Not trying to be mean.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
So, yes, they are not the confident debaters they once were, in my recent experience.
They are though master debaters. Just watch their infamous sign language video.
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They Came To The Door!
by NotFormer ingoing door to door with their "memorial" invitation.
"so you can pass the emblems but nobody partakes?
them: "we can explain who is to partake".. me: "all jesus' followers".
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FedUpJW
Would the one and only people of the sovereign of the universe be representing him like this? Shouldn't they be boldly defending their doctrine and strongly and boldly giving a clear shout of warning to an entire world they think is about to be violently destroyed?
That was one of the many things that started me on the road leading off the hamster wheel. I just could not accept that IF what I believed was the truth why would I want to refrain from defending it? If peoples lives were in fact hanging in the balance depending on what I told them why would I want to sound an indistinct message? Why would I want to claim to have the light of truth and then hide it? Their own Bible condemns them, again.
(1 Corinthians 14:8, 9) 8 For if the trumpet sounds an indistinct call, who will get ready for battle? 9 In the same way, unless you with the tongue use speech that is easily understood, how will anyone know what is being said? You will, in fact, be speaking into the air. . .
(Matthew 5:15, 16) 15 People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. 16 Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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FedUpJW
They are slowly deleting all of Tony’s videos
I have kept a record of videos and have seen no change in the count. Last count was 39 this morning.
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2024-March-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!
by Atlantis in2024-march-s-147-announcements and reminders!.
page 1. https://imgbox.com/c7oswyu6 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/fzffpoha.
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FedUpJW
Thank you.
I see that again WT instructs elders to begin hounding the members about not forgetting the CONvention several months in advance, just like they think their members are a bunch of half-wit children. And of course they are told to subject the members to that god-awful white board cartoon video about CONvention reminders, again treating their members like special needs children. I'm glad I don't run that hamster wheel waste of time anymore!
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Elderly and sick: Out of sight, out of mind
by Captain Schmideo2 insomeone else posted something a similar experience, this is one i had regarding my mom.my mom died last year.
she had been in failing health for years, but the last 2 year were pretty rough for her, with lots of visits to the hospital.
the last 4 months, it was the hospital, a skilled nursing facility/rehab unit, and finally, a nursing home.
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FedUpJW
Once a member of the hall stops showing up due to serious illness, unless they are part of some huge clan (we are not a huge clan in my family), then they are going to be forgotten.
I've made a number of references here on this site to the way my parents were treated by JW's in their final years. The JW's are some of the most hypocritical pieces of s--t that exist when they yap about "love". As my father said shortly before he died, "Jehovah's Witnesses have "love" on their lips, but NONE in their hearts!
Realistically though that happens in all religions. My uncle and aunt, both staunch Southern Baptists, who are 96 and 92 respectively no longer have any members of their church who come by any more. As my uncle said, "They have forgotten us."