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  New light in this weeks WT?

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

  for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

  in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

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  Steel

  Every week needs to be something utterly insane and particular to the Wts. I think they are just running out of shit to talk about.
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  How does the Preaching Work get done Under a Ban?

  by Quarterback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the year book tells us that some activity in fs is being performed in countries that are banned, is this accurate?

  how on earth is it accomplished?

  do anyone have any experience?.

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  Steel

  Jws are not preachers or christians. They are just telemarketers with a prepackaged sales pitch who dont have an theological understanding of the scriptures.

  The evangelical church grows by members just finding 5 to 10 people in your life that aren't christians and just becoming their friends. Volunteer your time , help people out and invite them to your church.

  Even in countries where being a christian can be dangerous or isnt encouraged. this approach to evangelism has been incredibly successful in places like China, India, muslim world etc. There are tens of millions of people involved in the house church movement.

  I have very little sympathy for the poor brothers rotting in prison because they cant bang on your door saturday morning.
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  So what caused you to have doubts in the first place?

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.

  in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.

  i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..

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  i watched a video series on jesus in the old testament and what new testament writers were referrencing from the old testament.

  It was actual quite simple. It was literally like the expression cant see the forest because of all trees.

  Not saying i am joe jesus or anything but the bible does point in a single direction. The wts is a nutty conspiracy theory and they are so full of shit they literally dont know if they are coming or going.
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  The Triune Polytheism; the 'Trinity'

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.

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  Explain to us the physical manifestion of god in the old testament called the lord of the lord and how that relates to the new testament ?
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  The Triune Polytheism; the 'Trinity'

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.

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  Steel

  p.s

  the question is going to start a thread in 6 months stating how he has explored all the denominations of Christianity and how the wts isnt perfect but closest to the truth blah blah blah
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  The Triune Polytheism; the 'Trinity'

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.

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  Steel

  Good god

  Before entering into a theological discuss ion about the trinity or diety of christ, you need some kind of reference point.

  Again, learn who the new testament writers thought jesus was and how it comes from the old testament. Its the very reason i stopped attending meetings.
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  The Triune Polytheism; the 'Trinity'

  by the-Question in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the most ridiculous of all dogmas anywhere in the universe is the very foundation of churchianity.....thus, all their other claims are just blah, blah!.

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  Steel

  in the old testament god is invisible or no one can see the face of god and live. Yet god seems to deal with people in some form of manifestation. Now that being the angel of the lord or word of the lord.

  Now looking into the new testament its pretty obvious the writers believed jesus was this old testament manifestation of god.

  Now how this becomes the trinity, i dont know but jehovah witnesses have no right to be critical. They dont even understand basic christology.
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  When The Persecution Comes

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  when i was young everybody used to fantasise constantly about how brave we would all need to be "when the persecution comes".

  we worried about what "they" would do to us and how we would never talk or betray other jws.

  psychologically it was a damaging environment for children; but maybe that's another topic.. who would have thought that when it finally came it would take the form of being sued for protecting pedophiles.

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  I have often thought the lack of evangelical work in the islamic world is a real testament they dont even buy there own bullshit.

  Try being a Christian in mosul iraq right now. Of course that will never make any awake cover.
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  Who was/is the promised Messiah ? Jesus or Immanuel

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in isaiah 7:14 "therefore jehovah himself will give you men a sign look the maiden herself will actually become pregnant and she is giving birth to a son and she will certainly call his name immanuel".

  this scripture is attributed to the virgin birth of jesus from his mother mary to become the messiah.

  the problem is the name of the messiah isnt jesus its immanuel .

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  Steel

  Immanuel is used more as a title than an actual name meaning " god with us".

  Its like calling Steve Austin the rattlesnake. Sorry for the stupid wrestling analogy. Its all i could think of.
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  Hospice and JW

  by Terry Clees in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i am a bereavement coordinator with a hospice company.

  i have noticed that most often jw patients decline chaplain care and also the family ends up declining bereavement care.

  where i work our chaplains do not proselytize at all...they merely walk with the patient in their faith at the end of life.

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  Steel

  The watchtower and tract society pay alot of lipservice to god, jesus and the bible but in reality it is just a belief in seven magical men in new york and though your works and obedience and works to these men and the organization they lead you will survive Armageddon.

  The average jw looks at you with disgust and contempt. Thats why they reject your services.