Posts by stavro

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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

by cofty in

... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

they take pride in obedience.

stavro

Fisherman the strength in Cofty's argument lies in how God views blood. If he viewed the blood of an animal found dead in the same way as he viewed the carcass, then it explains why both eating the blood or touching the carcass only lead to uncleanness.

In the context of someone who is out hunting, (Lev. 17:13-17) the watchtower's statement that uncleanness was only a provision for someone who accidentally ate the dead animal is both desperate and laughable.

God only viewed blood as having value once a life was taken. It is only form this perspective that the scriptures relating to blood can be understood.

This is why Cofty's question, "Why is there a difference if as you assert, the blood of an animal that dies of itself is just as sacred as one that has been killed?" gets right to the heart of the issue.

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Australian Jehovah's Witnesses are ignorant of the Australian Royal Commission

by stuckinarut2 in

many here have asked how the average witness in australia is taking the news of the arc findings and conclusions.. is it affecting them?.

sorry to say, hardly any are even aware of the facts.

those that are, have been convinced that all the publicity is "apostate lies and satanic propaganda".

stavro

Even if the average jw doesn't want to know, It is just as important that the public are aware, as they are potential future converts. You are not afraid to verify information before becoming a jw, only after do you become afraid.

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The uptake...

by Thisismein1972 in

with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.

after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.

whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.

stavro

If you are trying to help a loved one wake up from indoctrination then the yearly statistics can be a very useful tool.

It forces JWs to try any rationalize why no one except for the most uneducated, believe their scriptural interpretation of the bible? Jw doctrine has become more and more ludicrous over time. Time and not apostasy has become their worst enemy.

The problem facing the organisation is where the growth is consistently coming from! It is consistently the poorest most uneducated people who are naturally attracted to their promise of a better life. The statistics, combined with the need to simplify the publications, has been showing this clearly for some time now. These poor people can't help the organisation either financially or intellectually. All they can do is help increase the number of memorial partakers

So not only is the organisation leaking money they are also desperately leaking intelligent people! The level of intellect possessed by the current governing body and which was put on public display by the Australian Royal Commission, is a testament to this.

Jehovah said that time would reveal the truth about everything. Nothing can hide or escape from it. I think this is one prophecy we can all agree on.

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The uptake...

by Thisismein1972 in

with recent events pointing at watchtower growth, i felt compelled to say a few words.. if the figures turn out to be true, then we should not be discouraged.

after 9/11 there was a surge in, not only the watchtower, but other demonisation of organised religion.

whenever there is a a paradigm shifting event that puts fear into others, this tends to have a life changing affect on an individual.. now let us zoom to the present.

stavro

As they spend nearly 2 billion man hours actively trying to recruit new members each year, it surely makes them the most active of all recruitment organisations on the planet. The fact that despite this monumental effort they can only grow by about 1 to 2 percent per annum is a testament to their failure to convince all but the most gullible, vulnerable and desperate. Their growth comes mainly from countries whose populations have a high percentage of these groups of people.

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Love and compassion

by stavro in

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-37955748.

after watching this i asked myself the question, how did i ever believe jehovah was about to kill billions of people who have so much love and compassion in their hearts?.

stavro

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-37955748

After watching this I asked myself the question, how did I ever believe Jehovah was about to kill billions of people who have so much love and compassion in their hearts?

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My gay friend went back to JWs?

by schnell in

one of my best friends was disfellowshipped several years ago, and word quickly got around that it was because he's gay.

we lost touch after that because of the disfellowshipping, but since i'm out now, i just found him online and got back in touch with him.

it was a great conversation, but he said he returned to jehovah.

stavro

Facing up to the reality of their own mortality can be too big a step for many people who have spent their lives believing wholeheartedly in everlasting life. Gay people also want to live forever in paradise.

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GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

by freddo in

study article: who is leading god's people today?

start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

stavro

Standard version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction."
Simplified version: "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor perfect. It can make mistakes when explaining the Bible or directing the organization."

They are admitting that potentially, they could have misinterpreted the scriptural cocktail they use in their attempt to prove they were appointed by God in 1919. Could it be they are actually just self appointed?

Where does wrong interpretation end and correct interpretation begin? As they admit they are not inspired by holy spirit, how can anyone truly know?

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Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

by wifibandit in

update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

stavro

Shouting voice on: HELLO! THE PREACHING WORK WITH ITS JW MESSAGE IS A FAILURE! A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME!

Whatever suspicions people may have about their financial situation one thing is for certain, their construction plans indicate they are not forecasting a huge influx of new converts. Their actions are an indication they recognize that their message has failed to convince the masses, and will continue to fail to do so.

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