imagine, if you will, that you are the only thing that exists.
imagine that you need no oxygen, because you had everything you need.
that means that, outside yourself, there is nothing to see, hear, feel or sense in any way.
Thanks Rem,
For destroying the last truth I had remaining from the '70's. First I find out the WTS lied to me. Then I found out my first girlfriend lied to me, then I found out Richard Nixon lied to me, then I find out Timothy Leary lied to me... and now you inform me that my favorite highschool teacher lied to me. When will these indignities end. I'm so embarrassed!!
i grew up in the religion and was baptized at.............supposedly the most important day in our lives and i cannot remember how old i actually was, anyways...... i believe it was 13 or 14. i was never disfellowshipped.
i have a "worldly" boyfriend whom i love dearly, and i no longer attend the "meetings".
i do not disagree with the organization entirely; in fact i am not even sure if i disagree with it at all.
LOL@ Gerard,
Welcome Sandy,
Personally I like a lot of witnesses, even love some. I detest religion in general, and in particular the WTS. Basher, no. Welcome to the world of free and open discussion.
Steve.
it seems the wt god has successfully busted up another family.. my wife informed me that one of her friends husband gave her an ultimatum; it's goona be either the jw religion or him and she chose to follow wt doctrine rather than keep her family together.
another who's so-called taken stand for the trooth.
my wife is just berating the guy for leaving his family, but in my opinion it was not he who left, but his wife.
The non-jws are the ones that have life as they have known it ripped apart as if they mean NOTHING.
Amen to this statement. I've seen it happen time and time again. It's happened in my family in the 70's, I see it happening again. Trying to compromise with a person being roped in by the WTS is like beating your head against a brick wall, it only feels good when you stop.
Welcome to the board 95storm, your story sounds alot like mine was nearly 30 years ago. Good luck.
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so, apparently they are saying at assemblies that all bible prophecy except for babylon the great has fallen have been fulfilled.
anyone else heard this?.
Same old crap from the society, it should change it's name to the Watchtower and Chicken Little Bible Society; and appoint the Boy Who Cried Wolf onto the GB!!
during a conversation about "demons" over the weekend, a jw relative exclaimed " well, demons do not like the "divine name" very much!".
understanding what she obviously meant, i replied, "but isn't there reference in the bible that "true christians" have nothing to fear of demons?".
) she didn't think that there is any such reference, but i said i would do a bit of "research" .
Gerard,
If you go to your posting history, then the specific story, at the top of the page where it says ACTION:
you will see the edit feature. There may be an easier way but this worked for me, hope I helped.
Editted to add: just click on your name in the thread you want and it all pops up like I said.
Editted to add: Gerard: after you've clicked your name, click your posting history, select your post then click edit... honest it works, i've just done it twice.
one of the funniest stories i have read in a long time!
not my own but found at another forum.
last week while travelling i stopped at a zany brainy store and saw that they had a blimp for sale.
ROFLMAO!!!
Funny story and well told pr. Another reason to stay away from inflatable plastic toys.
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the society is actively gearing up for possible new territories being opened up in the aftermath of war with
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New Territories?? Where next... Antarctica?, The Moon??
one of my brothers has had many j.w .
bible studys over the years.. yet they still cnat pin him down,or are ever likely to ,he said to myself recently now that your not attending the meetings anymore,maybee you will now take note and listen ,we went back and forth agreeing that the society aserts a controling influence upon the sheep like ones,we coverd all manner of corresponding dates given by the society showing them all to have been sanctioned by the founding members ,whom where using the measurments of the pyramids andthe star constalations to try predict the begining and end of the system.. what came next was a shock,do you wanna read on ,??????
close your ears ok .. well it concerns the apostle paul, .
Doesn't most of this argument center around the fact that all the original disciples thought that Christ was just for the Jews and Paul thought it should be preached to people of all nations?I don't think that's particularly true. It was, after all, not Paul, but Peter who initiated preaching to Gentiles and receiving them into the congregation. It may have been a hard concept for the early Jewish Christians to accept, but the Holy Spirit made it clear to Peter that Gentiles would also be accepted
Madman,
We may both be right on this. I think that Peter's view of the future of Christianity lay within the bounds of the Jewish law. To follow Christ was to still obey all the old rules of the Torah. There is no biblical evidence that Peter preached to the Gentiles in Rome, this thought originated with the early Christian writer Irenaeus in the late 2nd century.
I think that the whole 2nd chapter to the Galatians is central to this argument between Peter and Paul but particularly this:
But on the contrary seeing that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter with the gospel to the circumcised. Gal:2:7
I said to Cephas in the presence of all 'if you being a jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the jews, how is it that you compel the gentiles to live like jews.' Gal 2:14I think this goes to the heart of the arguments between Peter and Paul, and shows that the two had different views on the direction of Christianity.
i used to be a jw for a few years but i left it behind like a pair of dirty underwear.
at first it seemed good.
the people were all very nice and inviting (of course they would be), the teachings seemed logical.
Welcome to the board Crinkle, enjoyed your post:
That is until it was announced by Russel at breakfast, one morning, to the slaves at Bethel that he wouldn't be celebrating Christmas anymore and if you were a good Christian you wouldn't celebrate it either. And that meeting detailed this new policy and that if they didn't adhear to it they were DF'd.If my recollection is right it couldn't have been Russell, because they celebrated birthdays up until 1927, Russell as you might know died 1916. It was Rutherford most likely.
It probably was Rutherford, he must have been pissed off that prohibition was affecting his liquor flow, he had no Johnny Walker to pour over his cornflakes.
How can one properly celebrate X-mas without conferring with the spirits??
imagine, if you will, that you are the only thing that exists.
imagine that you need no oxygen, because you had everything you need.
that means that, outside yourself, there is nothing to see, hear, feel or sense in any way.
As and example: I understand the God don't need experience for knowledge. He knows good and evil without experience the evil. As I understand Satan is the creator of evil
Ginosko,
I have to disagree with you. God the creator of EVERYTHING is also the creator of evil, and the 'Father of the lie'. Would there be good without evil? And are not good and evil just concepts in the creators mind?
Ah, the world is a stage and we are but actors... or something like that.
