this site was and remains instrumental in assisting people that want to leave the jw's.. there has been political discussion here for some time now, a good couple of years and it makes me feel a little uneasy.
i just opened up the site for the first time in some weeks, of the 10 posts being discussed, 4 were by the same poster, about politics, promoting their right wing beliefs.. this has been the trend for some time now, the same name behind a peppering of posts stirring the right v left of politics.. i remain forever grateful to the site and it's founders simon & angharad, i appreciate that simon shares some of these these political beliefs.
it would be a shame to see the site evolve from a place for jw freedom of thought and escape, to political squabbling, that the world is frankly tired of right now.. just to clarify, politics is my hobby, whilst my friends read the football scores, i'm reading polling data.
It would be a shame to see the site evolve from a place for JW freedom of thought and escape, to political squabbling,
I fear and suspect that corner has been turned.
it isn't a debate, it's a promotion of western, right wing, American conservatism
Indeed, it seems to be more along the lines of "ha ha, let's pwn the libtards".
gen 1: 11 says: .
11 then god said, “let the earth sprout [j]vegetation, [k]plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit according to [l]their kind [m]with seed in them”; and it was so.
12 the earth produced [n]vegetation, [o]plants yielding seed according to [p]their kind, and trees bearing fruit [q]with seed in them, according to [r]their kind; and god saw that it was good.
As I recall, the official JW doctrine on Genesis chapter 1 is that it details the order of creation "from the perspective of an observer on the earth". I have no idea which orifice they pulled that one from, but there you go.
So, based on their tortured reasoning, the sun was created "in the beginning" at Genesis 1:1. Its light came through to the earth, but the earth was covered by thick clouds 100% of the time over 100% of the surface, so an "observer on the earth" would never have perceived the yellow ball in the sky providing the light. But the light would have been sufficient for the plants.
Afterward, the teaching goes, God "thinned out" the cloud cover enough so that our mythical "observer on the earth" could perceive the yellow ball "from his perspective".
The "water canopy" that supplied the water for the global deluge of Genesis chapter 6 is mixed up in there as well, at some point.
Please, please, I know this defies about a hundred laws of physics, and things didn't really happen this way. I'm just saying what the JW explanation is, which works well enough on their adherents who are routinely counseled against reading information contrary to JW positions.
so about a month in to biden's presidency and they are already bombing a country.. remind me how trump was going to bring about wwiii with north korea, iran, china and god knows who else?
did he?
no.. but straight back to business as usual for the military industrial complex and crickets from their media buddies..
how are they handling the memorial this year?
zoom or open kh's?
how do they reject the wine & bread in their own home?
Yes, on zoom, and each family provides their own emblems.
At least 80% of the JWs I know will eat & drink them within seconds of their zoom cameras going dark.
Somehow, the bread and wine are only "holy", somehow it only really "counts", if you eat the bread & drink the wine....at the exact "right time".
If you eat & drink at 7:45 PM (during the meeting) then you'd better be "anointed" or you will be "partaking unworthily" and Jehovah will smite you.
If you eat/drink the identical items at 8:15 (after the meeting), though, hey, just a nice little snack.
And don't get me started on the sheer absurdity that each family will go through to appear to be "passing the emblems" to each other.
The goofiness of the whole thing is just incomprehensible to anyone who's never been a JW.
the song this week.
it has to be hands down the stupidest one ever.
Oh I dunno, they had one about a singing literature cart on one of the early JW Borg-casts a few years back.
i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.
does anybody have on info on this?.
i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .
utterly nonsensical notion
With all due respect, "one generation consists of 2 overlapping groups and thus can extend for 150 or more years" fits quite nicely within the "utterly nonsensical" spectrum.
i have heard a few whispers that once again they are going to be changing the generation teaching.
does anybody have on info on this?.
i would love to be able to hit my family with a. .
Oh please please please let it be true!
No one - I mean NO ONE - shoots themselves in the foot (feet?) so phenomenally as those guys.
Fingers crossed!
do you think voters should be required to prove that they are legitimate?.
How do you get a down vote for nominative statements of fact that can be verified from your state's body of revised statutes?
Facts are becoming increasingly irrelevant on this site....
so the cult is getting into film production.
i saw evans piece on the jws opening a studio in australia.
one thing i see is if they use the people who are drawn to acting one they will create internal stars.
people who are drawn to acting and are natural at it are many times have homosexual tendencies.
Fascinating.
What can you tell about them by measuring the shape & size of their skull, and counting the bumps?
so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.
take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.
do not be afraid, for i am with you.
It would be one thing if anyone on the RNWT committee had any training in Biblical or Greek, or hell, any real (from a university) training in translation in general, and could justify their rewording.
But the RNWT is, as best as I can piece together, a bunch of guys reviewing Fred Franz's 75-80 year old notes from the original NWT, and then brainstorming what "sounds better" in modern English, with a preference toward phrasing that is "easy to translate".
So you end up with a translation based on notes from an older translation based on one guy's (maybe two guys if Gangas was involved) intermediate understanding of Biblical languages.
